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Ruddy Yurts RIP

Discussion in 'music, bands, clubs & festies' started by Santino, Jun 24, 2014.

  1. Santino

    Santino lovelier than lovely

    As you know I am far from a Yurts purist, but I don't really consider his nu-metal dabblings to be worth the attention they are sometimes given.
     
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  2. billy_bob

    billy_bob supercalifragilistic-borussiamönchengladbach

    Completely agree. The phrase 'produced by Dave Mustaine' is enough to send shivers down your spine, and not in a good way.
     
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  3. Libertad

    Libertad Sweetie

    cf. Jaz Milvane.
     
  4. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    got this little gem recently, and in mint condition too :cool: and not a mustaine in sight :)

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  5. Libertad

    Libertad Sweetie

    Oooh, rare groove. What year was that recorded?
     
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  6. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    1981
     
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  7. Libertad

    Libertad Sweetie

    Cheers :thumbs:
     
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  8. billy_bob

    billy_bob supercalifragilistic-borussiamönchengladbach

    Isn't that the one that holds the record for the longest bassoon solo ever committed to vinyl, on 'No Kaddish for Stepan', weighing in at 11m 26s? Arturo Belladona of Record Collector famously described it as 'thorough'.

    Of course, Ruddy's solos during live performances dwarf that effortlessly. You have to measure some of them in days rather than minutes :cool:
     
  9. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

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    anyone got this 1983 album? this was, famously, his first self-produced album.
     
  10. TheHoodedClaw

    TheHoodedClaw "Ride me sideways" was another one

    Yurts' extended 1968 stay in Mexico City was, for him, a time of solitude and self-reflection. However, he did find the time to cut this hot wax

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  11. Libertad

    Libertad Sweetie

    Enforced solitude iirc due to some visa irregularity. Herb Alpert stumped up for his bail and Ruddy recorded a session with him by way of recompense.
     
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  12. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

  13. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    existentialist have you got this album?
     
  14. DotCommunist

    DotCommunist my world is fire and blood

    there was a photo of it in that glossy tome about the film that never was 'Yurts on Fire'. Can't say I have encountered it in the flesh. And his bastard estate are sitting on all original recordings as well so I'll not be hearing it anytime soon
     
  15. Santino

    Santino lovelier than lovely

    An estimated 60 hours of entirely unreleased material too.
     
  16. ohmyliver

    ohmyliver poppin' like a cork

    A friend of mine's doing a PHDF (it's apparently some sort of academic document) on Ruddy Yurts and his extended series of letters to the Neasden Observer explaining the reasons for his fist fight with Sun Ra which happened in a series of lucid dreams. Fascinating stuff.
     
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  17. existentialist

    existentialist Spartacus? No, never heard of him.

    I had a copy, but I gave it to someone whose need was greater than mine.
     
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  18. Athos

    Athos Well-Known Member

    I had the privilege of seeing his (im)famous 67 minute solo at the Milton Keynes Folk and Jazz festival, back in '83. Never saw anything like it, before or since.
     
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  19. DotCommunist

    DotCommunist my world is fire and blood

    It was always fascinating to me that Yurts was so handy, I know he did a bit of boxing training as a boy, but his bassoon was so gentle you almost can't imagine the man giving someone a slap.
     
  20. ohmyliver

    ohmyliver poppin' like a cork

    According to my friend it was this juxtaposition between that gentleness and the violent altercation with Sun Ra, despite it being in a dream, that led him to write the series of anguished letters about it to The Neasden Observer. Apparently they kept all of them in file marked 'Jazz', but stopped publishing them after the 4th one.

    Of course Yurts was unaware of this as he was then living in a converted transit van just outside Basingstoke.
     
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  21. billy_bob

    billy_bob supercalifragilistic-borussiamönchengladbach

    The fact that it was converted only to a slightly smaller transit always breaks my heart a little.
     
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  22. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    Has anyone a copy of the ruddy yurts discography from the Nov 1998 record collector?
     
  23. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    The broken bassoon on the cover of 'breaking wind' above was damaged in a fight outside Ronnie Scotts when yurts used it to hospitalise the guitarist reg 'tent' pegg
     
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  24. existentialist

    existentialist Spartacus? No, never heard of him.

    I never quite understood what the roots of the beef between Yurts and Pegg was. Every encounter between them seemed to be an exercise in nascent violence - you wonder how they ever ended up working together in the first place, given that one of them walking into a room in which the other one was seemed to result in airborne furniture (or musical instruments).
     
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  25. Libertad

    Libertad Sweetie

    It was rumoured to be rivalry over a woman even though Pegg was a confirmed bachelor.
     
  26. billy_bob

    billy_bob supercalifragilistic-borussiamönchengladbach

    Freudian semiotician Vassily Moskevicz's seminal paper, 'The hierarchy of the m(M)embers [sic] of the band: the jazz gestalt and imagery of suppressed sexual domination' makes some curious points about the symbolism of different musical instruments and the way that this has played out in external expressions of traditional masculinity in the jazz world.

    His methodologies have of course since been entirely discredited (and, in one notorious case, criminalised), but it still makes for a fascinating read.
     
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  27. Libertad

    Libertad Sweetie

    I read that when it was first serialised in Jazz Journal and found it an interesting discourse but ultimately bollocks.
     
  28. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    No doubt you saw yurts' stream of consciousness response, subsequently released as the spoken word album 'rants at the rose and crown'
     
  29. Libertad

    Libertad Sweetie

    Indeed I did, more instructive than the paper itself. There are pdfs of back copies available I believe.
     
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  30. billy_bob

    billy_bob supercalifragilistic-borussiamönchengladbach

    The whole 'you ain't nothin but a oboeist' riff on Hound Dog that crops up somewhere around p. 32 is hilarious but, more to the point, pretty much seems to hit home as far as the chip on Moskevicz's own shoulder is concerned.
     

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