Discussion in 'Brixton' started by editor, Feb 8, 2011.
More regarding ground rents at Nos. 2 and 3 Zoar Place (in 1855)
More on No. 5 Zoar Place (bankruptcy petition?) in 1846
WHEREAS a Petition of John Evans, of No. 2, Zoarplace,
Cold Harbour-road, Brixton, in the county of
Surrey, Coffee Shop and Eating Housekeeper, an insolvent
debtor, having been filed in the Court of Bankruptcy,
and the interim order for protection from process having
been given to the said John Evans, under the provisions
of the Statutes in that case made and provided, the said John
Evans is hereby required to appear in Court before Edward
Goulburn, Esq. the Commissioner acting in the matter of
the said Petition, on the 21st day of November instant, at
half past eleven in the forenoon precisely, at the Court of
Bankruptcy, in Basinghall-street, in the city of London,
for his first examination touching his debts, estate,
I'm guessing that Zoar Place must have vanished some time around 1870.
I know I witter a lot Ed, but if you read my posts, you'd see that I mentioned it was listed in Lambeth's Street Registration in 1871
and it was definitely a public house (as well as other things by the sounds of it).
That's in 1854
1878 - Loughborough Tavern
Old Bailey proceedings in June 1869 re: obtaining money by deception
Found my billiard marker.
Is the Loughborough Hotel the same as the Loughborough Pub?
eta: Nah, different places. Loughborough Pub was 305-307 and the hotel's in the early 30s
No, but there's an interesting connection with Loughborough and Brixton. Which of course, has been documented on urban:
(so the pub was probably after the original East Brixton station. There's a feature on that too!)
Hurray! My hunch was right!
Funnily enough, I'd just been looking at the Leicester Historian (page 6 onwards). Quite a good map on there as well of Brixton.
Yes, your hunch was right, but I got the evidence
Shame there's not much on it, but judging by those times, it looks like everyone was in debt and probably couldn't afford to drink - a bit like now then
Can you please not come up with any mysteries for about 5 days please because it's taking up all my time and I've got things to do.
Loughborough Park Tavern publicans
Loughborough Park Tavern, 305 & 307 Cold Harbour Lane SW9
definitley a pub -marked as such on 1870 map
List of publicans from 1878 to 1921, but no pic
Year/Publican or other Resident/Relationship to Head and or Occupation/Age/Where Born/Source.
1878/Edward Dubbins/../../../../Surrey Directory ****
1881/Edward Dubbins/Licensed Victualler (Manager)/33/St Clements, Middlesex/Census
1881/Ellen Dubbins/Wife/26/Brixton, Surrey/Census
1881/Ellen Dubbins/Daughter/3/Brixton, Surrey/Census
1881/Thomas Lake/Servant (Inn)/17/Marylebone, Middlesex/Census
1881/Mary Shayler/Servant (Inn)/16/Islington, Middlesex/Census
1881/Emma Simmonds/Servant (Inn)/23/Lambeth, Surrey/Census
1881/William Dock/Servant (Inn)/21/London, Middlesex/Census
1896/William Charles Barber/../../../../Post Office Directory ****
1901/William Elden/../../../../Post Office Directory ****
1905/Edward Elden/../../../../Post Office Directory ****
1908/Edward Elden/../../../../Post Office Directory ****
1911/Joseph Benjamin Crick/../../../../Post Office Directory ****
1919/George F T Edwards/../../../../Post Office Directory ****
1921/George F T Edwards/../../../../Post Office Directory ****
When I moved in to Barrier (when it was first built) the frame of the sign was still standing at corner of Coldharbour/Moorlands - will see if I can dig out a snap.
Apart from the photo of sign you have at
there are the cellars during demolition.
sign shows in the second and third photos - but you have to know where to look! It is a white pole with a black frame on top - bisects the B of Barkers Corner in second photo (side on so almost invisible), and is to right of two lamp posts in centre of third
Didn't know it had previously been called Royal Veteran. The RV companies were formed in 1825, largely of veterans of Napoleonic wars, and were used to serve in the penal colonies of New South Wales, Australia, where they were given land grants on discharge. Scheme was not a success and few took up the grants, many returning to this country. Not difficult to speculate that pub was named and run by one such returnee!
Hoorray! I've finally found a photo of the pub!
Blimey. It was a big old boozer too....
Thanks to that site, I've now managed to find out what almost all the shops on the strip by the pub were. To the right was Blake's bicycle shop, then R E Hobday's off-licence, a closed shop at 313, then a newsagent and another Blake's bike shop.
To the left of the pub at # 301-303 was Barker Ltd., and then Moorlands Road.
The one you mentioned in the other thread - and the one I linked to above the picture I just posted up!
I'm well chuffed to be able to be able to visualise a near panorama of the street as t was in the late 60s/early 70s.
Oh, your other post is on previous page so missed it. Excellent
Was a grand sized pub as well
I'm quite taken back by the size of the thing - for a pub that size it seems strange that so little information is available.
A closer look reveals that Loughborough Park Tavern was built in 1899. So was the Royal Veteran there before? Or was the pub just rebuilt?
argh, don't start that again!
Going to have to go through this thread again
eta: Just had a quick look at thread and I found that I posted it was the Royal Veteran in 18?? (forgotten year already - see post no. 66), but no info on whether it was knocked down and rebuilt as the Loughborough at any stage or whether the Loughborough just took over the RV's premises.
but then see post no 67 (I think) where I state in 1878 (or was it 1868?)
and that was another one listing Loughborough Pub
Looked on there for Zoar Place hoping I'd find something but zilch
Quick look for Charrington's produced this
Not exactly relevant, but interesting story about one of the Charrington's
OK, so the pub is a rebuild, but the original pub could have earlier been rebuilt or renamed.
I think it will remain a mystery forever!
I've posted up an article on the pub now and invited readers to send in any memories there have, so maybe we'll find out more!
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