Royal Veteran/Loughborough Park Tavern on Coldharbour Lane/ Moorlands Rd SW9

Discussion in 'Brixton' started by editor, Feb 8, 2011.

  1. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Could you post up those maps? The pub - and the Royal Veteran whatever that was - was set back off Coldharbour Lane so it could be that Zoar Place was the name for that strip.

    There's no mention of a Post Office in the 1870 or 1894 maps though.
     

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  2. boohoo

    boohoo No.

  3. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    the 1870 & 1894 maps are quite hot on pub locations.
     
  4. boohoo

    boohoo No.

    Might be something on Sam the wheels footage... :)
     
  5. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    To recap: it's definitely been a pub since 1870. It was definitely the Loughborough Park Tavern, possibly previously called the Royal Veteran, or that may have been an earlier hall.

    Here's a rather spartan 1850 map I've just found. Atlantic Road is a footpath!
     

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  6. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    that's a skeleton os map. the other ones i've seen are from 1848, perhaps they started in north london and worked their way down.
     
  7. Minnie_the_Minx

    Minnie_the_Minx someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox

    I'm thinking that's a good possibility. There's loads of places up Brixton Hill and Streatham Hill (and elsewhere obviously) that have names for particular blocks (or parades of shops), but those names are very rarely used in their addresses nowadays.
     
  8. boohoo

    boohoo No.

    Like all the different mansions on Coldharbour Lane - Carlton, Clifton, etc...
     
  9. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    those are subsidiary names which were generally abolished by the 1950s: have a look in the london county council street names books which you'll find in the lambeth archives. but you don't find subsidiary names listed on os maps - although the map in the op's not an ordnance survey map.
     
  10. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Here's a 1916 map showing a clear space in front of the pub (you can see the tram lines too)
     

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  11. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    I've just spotted a Clarewood Mews too. It's nice to know that the current name has some relation to the area, even if the street plan and buildings have been flattened.
     
  12. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Hello. What are these "ruins" that are visible in the 1952 map (highlighted by green arrow)?

    I don't think this area was bombed.
     

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  13. Minnie_the_Minx

    Minnie_the_Minx someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox

    Yeah, my dentist in Streatham still uses it. Remember having a nightmare trying to find where they were located because of the way they'd written the address (ie. Leigham Hall Parade)
     
  14. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    when you visit the archives make sure to consult the bomb damage maps they should have. or i can tell you tomorrow
     
  15. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    The ruins are still there in 1960, and the pub has got its name displayed.... (I could do this all night - there's so much info to be found in maps!)
     

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  16. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    I've checked the V2/V1 sites and there's nothing there, but if you can have a look that would be appreciated.
     
  17. boohoo

    boohoo No.

  18. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    there were lots of places which weren't cleared for bloody years after the war - not surprising when you see how much was bombed. anyway, i'll have a gander in the afternoon
     
  19. Minnie_the_Minx

    Minnie_the_Minx someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox

    2 houses demolished on Loughborough/Barrington according to this (24 July 1944). Few bombs hit other areas of SW9 but I don't recognise the street names myself

    http://www.flyingbombsandrockets.com/V1_summary_sw4and9.html
     
  20. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Here's the 1975-77 map. Everything's gone!
     

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  22. Minnie_the_Minx

    Minnie_the_Minx someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox


    I'm not good at maps. You're totally losing me with all these maps :oops:

    I'm also now confused. I'm not sure whether I'm looking at Coldharbour Lane, Loughborough Road or Zoar Place any more. I have so many sodding windows open
     
  23. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    yeh: but you're looking at v1s and that. most of the damage was done years before v1s and v2s, during the 1940-41 period.
     
  24. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

  25. boohoo

    boohoo No.

    Those houses look lovely. A trip to the archives always has me wincing at some of the nice looking buildings that have come down to be replaced by horrible modern blocks.
     
  26. miss minnie

    miss minnie Well-Known Member

  27. miss minnie

    miss minnie Well-Known Member

  28. Minnie_the_Minx

    Minnie_the_Minx someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox

    Yes, but that was in response to Ed's map as shown above, although I have no idea now what road had a "ruins" mark on it as I'm now totally brain dead. Probably Loughborough Road (or was it Coldharbour?). Shit, I don't know anymore. I need to stop this :mad::oops:
     
  29. Minnie_the_Minx

    Minnie_the_Minx someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox

    Zoar Place is in 1851 Lambeth Street Index, but not 1941

    also there in 1861 and 1871
     
  30. Minnie_the_Minx

    Minnie_the_Minx someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox

    Well I've discovered there was a No. 5 Zoar Place in 1854, same type of shop as the one listed earlier

     

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