Roy Keane

[Balbi]

so we are officially downgrading 'brilliantly' to good?

in fact we're downgrading it to 'good for the irish'

which i guess means average

so... for 'without roy keane they were average'


thank you.

great progression of logical thinking chorlton

the irish got as far as they were reasonably expected to - with or without Keane, R.

The manner in which they did it was brilliant - Keanes last minuter against the Germans in mind there.

Overall, a good display for the Irish at a world cup.

Without the moody one.

 

[Genghis Cohen]

Being thick is a bit harsh.

His hip has given him shit for years, yet he choses to retire in the season where the mancs basically give him the sack after he makes a 'spectacle' of himself on mutv and despite now playing for his boyhood club, with a footballing brain like his, his reading of the game, his experience, physical condition is less of a factor.

His career was over when Garcia did him.

 

[Chorlton]

great progression of logical thinking chorlton

the irish got as far as they were reasonably expected to - with or without Keane, R.

The manner in which they did it was brilliant - Keanes last minuter against the Germans in mind there.

Overall, a good display for the Irish at a world cup.

Without the moody one.

put on a really plummy english accent and a patronising sneer and read this back to yourself, because thats the way i read it.

 

[Chorlton]

Being thick is a bit harsh.

His hip has given him shit for years, yet he choses to retire in the season where the mancs basically give him the sack after he makes a 'spectacle' of himself on mutv and despite now playing for his boyhood club, with a footballing brain like his, his reading of the game, his experience, physical condition is less of a factor.

His career was over when Garcia did him.

#1 his 'boyhood club' were spurs you fucken no-nowt

#2 i presume the above statement means that you are retracting your earlier statement of " his career should end as a result of trying to injure someone." because you are really puttin 2 + 2 and coming up with 17 there

#3 how the fuck am i self proclaimed manc?

 

[Balbi]

put on a really plummy english accent and a patronising sneer and read this back to yourself, because thats the way i read it.

wow, it's like you're right here with me

 

[Genghis Cohen]

#1 his 'boyhood club' were spurs you fucken no-nowt

#2 i presume the above statement means that you are retracting your earlier statement of " his career should end as a result of trying to injure someone." because you are really puttin 2 + 2 and coming up with 17 there

#3 how the fuck am i self proclaimed manc?

#1 I'll take your word, its fairly well known he grew up supporting celtic but I'll assume its received opinion.

#2 You wouldnt be 'presuming' because the evidence fails to support such a standpoint, you'd be assuming, fact is you've defeated yours and his own claims regarding his hip by pointing out its been giving him shit for ages so much so he nearly retired in 2003, but didnt, from there on I'm employing causality to conclude that Garcia is a cause (Keane himself would perhaps be THE cause for trying to injure Garcia in the first place,) not arithmetic.

#3 By being mindlessly aggressive, can see why you like keane so much actually.

Tatty bye.

 

[Chorlton]

#1 I'll take your word,
its fairly well known he grew up supporting celtic but I'll assume itreceived opinion.

for a man who has such strong feelings on keane - you clearly know fuck all, but you are really having some difficulty accepting this. - his 'support' for celtic never went much beyond the fairly standard 'i' m irish so i like celtic' - far from 'boyhood heroes - his support for celtic came much later when he started travelling up from manchester to the games. But he clearly stated that his boyhood team were spurs - he was a big fan of glen hoddle

#2 You wouldnt be 'presuming' because the evidence fails to support such a standpoint, you'd be assuming, fact is you've defeated yours and his own claims regarding his hip by pointing out its been giving him shit for ages so much so he nearly retired in 2003, but didnt, from there on I'm employing causality to conclude that Garcia is a cause (Keane himself would perhaps be THE cause for trying to injure Garcia in the first place,) not arithmetic.

you are talking fucklen balls is what you are doing.

He has a hip problem

he has retired because of a hip problem

you can employ causality till yer blue in the fucken face but he is not retiring due to a broken fucken foot.

#3 By being mindlessly aggressive, can see why you like keane so much actually.e

right..... you stated that i 'am a self proclaimed manc' rather than point out wher i proclaimed this you are telling me that it is evident in my mindless aggression..... are you employing causality again?

Tatty bye.

get back here you fucken cunt.... You really do have a fucken problem with accepting that you are wrong, i'll run through it again:

- Roy Keane did not retire due to a broken foot

- Roy Keane supported spurs as a kid

- I am not a manc self-proclaimed or otherwise


cheers

 

[zed]

It's only a fucking game dude ...and Roy Keane is, at the end of the day, just another rich-cunt footballer who couldn't give a flying fuck about you and your defence of him here ....

...so calm fucking down and find something worthwhile to get upset about.

 

[Chorlton]

zed, seriously... suck my balls.

the guy put forward a point, i contested it... he started employing fucken causality to explain how a fucked hip = a broken foot- thats some serious ninja shit - if the guy is really employing causality hes paying it minimum fucken wage.

...so calm fucking down and find something worthwhile to get upset about.

i have spent half the night tearing my hair out at installing a usb dvb-t device undr linux - if you want the truth i have been considerably more bothered about that and i have put a post in the computers forum - i wasn't going to bring it up but since you ask.....

 

[zed]

i have spent half the night tearing my hair out at installing a usb dvb-t device undr linux - if you want the truth i have been considerably more bothered about that and i have put a post in the computers forum - i wasn't going to bring it up but since you ask.....

 

[Mr Retro]

the irish got as far as they were reasonably expected to - with or without Keane, R.

Overall, a good display for the Irish at a world cup.

Typical of the attitude Keane hated. He was there to win a world cup, the rest were there for an end-of-season-lets-not-disgrace-ourselves-jolly.

As epitimised when we bottled it against a 10 man Spain, who were themselves bottling it.

 

[rosa]

Hmmm...irish captain retires....much-hated former irish prime minister immediately drops dead....

anyone else praying for beckham to hang up his boots after the world cup?

 

[aylee]

Hmmm...irish captain retires....much-hated former irish prime minister immediately drops dead....

anyone else praying for beckham to hang up his boots after the world cup?

 

[cathal marcs]

It doesn't matter. If the preparations and arrangements aren't the way you want it, you don't provoke a confrontation with the management and walk out or get yourself sent home (which way it was matters not). You grit your teeth, get on with it and save your wrath for after the tournament.

It seems to me that you and Chorlton need to take off your Keane-tinted shades and look at the matter more objectively.

With that attitude I can see you would make a great Union rep

 

[aylee]

With that attitude I can see you would make a great Union rep

Eh?

We're talking about playing football for your country here, not working in an office or a factory.

In any case, the fact that no-one else followed Keane out of the squad in protest at the Irish FA's and McCarthy's alleged failings is significant. Such player protests have achieved their objectives many times before. Perhaps some or all of them shared some of his views, but preferred not to let their country down by leaving/getting themselves kicked out of the squad.

 

[maximilian ping]

this is a thread hi-jack

roy keane was very keen, and peter crouch certainly has to crouch a lot. oh yeh, trevor butcher was always covered in blood. any more of this footie name same as the game stuff going on?

 

[not-bono-ever]

8 year bump

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30031989

More Roy Keane international lols, this incident aside, how does this bloke still find employment ?

 

[imposs1904]

8 year bump

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30031989

More Roy Keane international lols, this incident aside, how does this bloke still find employment ?

Loved his recent book with Roddy Doyle.

 

[Wilf]

I'm not a great fan of Keane's hard man persona, but it's worth holding fire on this. I've seen reports that he 'threw a punch', but also that is was someone who had been harrassing him for a while (neither of which might be true).

 

[LiamO]

8 year bump

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30031989

More Roy Keane international lols, this incident aside, how does this bloke still find employment ?

Fuck me. Hope I'm never on trial with you on the jury.

 

[not-bono-ever]

dont worry, there is zero chance of that happening

"this incident aside" I said- Im asking what he adds to a professional outfit now ? Sure he was an effective player (a cunt as well) & jumped ship when in the national team, but hes failed as a pundit, failed as a manager...

 

[Wilf]

dont worry, there is zero chance of that happening

"this incident aside" I said- Im asking what he adds to a professional outfit now ? Sure he was an effective player (a cunt as well) & jumped ship when in the national team, but hes failed as a pundit, failed as a manager...

To be honest he is quite effective at 'Making Gareth Southgate Look Uneasy in a TV Studio'.

 

[LiamO]

dont worry, there is zero chance of that happening

"this incident aside" I said- Im asking what he adds to a professional outfit now ? Sure he was an effective player (a cunt as well) & jumped ship when in the national team, but hes failed as a pundit, failed as a manager...

I am not, nor ever was, Keane's biggest fan but...

a) As a Manager he initially had success with Sunderland/lost the plot a bit with Ipswich

b) I don't have any english TV channels but from what I can gather from mates over there Keane was a cut above the usual platitudinous cretins they have for pundits. He certainly called the anguished wailing over Thierry Henry about right.

 

[Wilf]

I am not, nor ever was, Keane's biggest fan but...

a) As a Manager he initially had success with Sunderland/lost the plot a bit with Ipswich

b) I don't have any english TV channels but from what I can gather from mates over there Keane was a cut above the usual platitudinous cretins they have for pundits. He certainly called the anguished wailing over Thierry Henry about right.

He was certainly good at the 'toughen up', 'sort it out', calling it like it is comments. Didn't add too much beyond that, particularly as one of the 'platitudinous cretins' he was regularly on with was Lee Dixon, who is pretty good. I did though love the looks of contempt he directed at Adrian Chiles. Can't imagine they went for a pint together after the show.