room for rent in Elephant

[kyser_soze]

Before we moved, we had a look about and actually at the moment its the same price or slightly (like £5 a week) more than fully credible ex-council stock which is half the size and half as well heated, shaped etc. The fact is i'm paying £90 which is fucking amazing for what i get. If you want a lot cheaper then you share a very big house with lots of people, but it won't get much cheaper without special circumstances like knowing someone or living with the landlord etc. In short, i'm paying the same i would for a room in a big shared house further out - its not much money at all. Our friends are living together in old, cold, SEVEN PERSON houses in places like Lea Valley are paying more than us. We know its a good deal here, and we save loads on heating and water here cos its so new (and waters included).

As for gentrification, i think we need to understand what that proccess is. An area is neglected by its council and developers see cheap land to turn into a new market - people from outside the area. Now the problem here is uneven development aimed at people from outside the area which obviously favours new, richer people displacing the original residents. Although often the 'gentrifiers' are not actually richer at all, just new to the area, younger, and interested in nice shops and new developments. Now who is responsible, the people moving in, or the developers? You are going to move to what you can afford and this city is a city of immigrants. (You aren't actually from london btw, and I am, several generations at the very least). The logic of blaming gentrification on the people rather than the developers and the economic system leads you to this conlusion: everyone stay in the area they were born in. I think gentrification is often a by-word for parochialism and lazy assumoptions where actual politics should be, and i rarely use the word. You don't fight gentrification by wishing younger workers wouldn't move into the obvious choice for them, you do it by fighting for equal recognition for the longer term residents and social tenants. Which I do

Fuck me, where'd your sense of humour go Tax? Or did it strike a nerve? Something of an overresponse here...

 

[Taxamo Welf]

kaiser, all due respect, there were no winks in your post and you called me a cunt. I thought you were having a pop cos of all the times i ribbed you about being an advertising exec or whatever you were. So i had a bit of a vent

It was as much for my benefit as yours, and 'gentrification' is a bugbear of mine. I've seen people opening totally normal, but nice, cafes called 'gentrifiers' ffs. Its a bit of a buzzword on the left. I do actually do a lot of work around housing issues and what is often termed 'gentrification' so yes, it touched a nerve. I certainly wouldn't assume that people living in my block or a block like were all too rich or too callous to undertand the issues either, from my experience in hackney plenty of newcomers in new flats are social campaigners.

 

[Taxamo Welf]

Is this an appropriate point to mention that sharing a small flat with a yuppie student couple is my idea of a nightmare?

professional what?

Jobs i have done: labourer, handyman, till worker, teaching assistant. Now back at university.

Call me American Psycho and pass the cocaine

 

[kyser_soze]

kaiser, all due respect, there were no winks in your post and you called me a cunt. I'm actually not 100% comfortable living in such a nice place (fucking doormen?!) so i had a bit of a vent

Come on mate, this is me we're talking about. Shouldn't need smileys...

 

[teuchter]

professional what?

Jobs i have done: labourer, handyman, till worker, teaching assistant. Now back at university.

Call me American Psycho and pass the cocaine

My post shouldn't be taken too seriously. I'm sure your unprofessional credentials are second to none.

 

[zenie]

professional what?

Jobs i have done: labourer, handyman, till worker, teaching assistant. Now back at university.

Call me American Psycho and pass the cocaine

I would have said posh toff not yuppie lol.

Some people have gone a bit overboard, you're only trying to rent a room FFS, why the interrorgation ey?!

I thought the cunt bit was a bit off as well

 

[Lalu]

I would have said posh toff not yuppie lol.

Some people have gone a bit overboard, you're only trying to rent a room FFS, why the interrorgation ey?!

I thought the cunt bit was a bit off as well

Cheers, Z. I'm not even getting invloved in this madness. Gumtree here we come.

 

[Taxamo Welf]

Cheers Thora, hold that thought though whilst you gimme a call to arrange coming round and listen to some great new dubstep i have on vinyl and drink some lovely new Gavi (2001) I just got, I also just bought some delicious mature manchego from borough market!!!!!!!!!!!!

all true

 

[Taxamo Welf]

I would have said posh toff not yuppie lol.

champagne communist is the technical term

 

[Taxamo Welf]

My post shouldn't be taken too seriously. I'm sure your unprofessional credentials are second to none.

i don't take your posts seriously, i've seen you in P n P

 

[kyser_soze]

champagne communist is the technical term

'Amaretto Anarchist'

 

[zenie]

champagne communist is the technical term

oooh I like that!!

 

[Taxamo Welf]

'Amaretto Anarchist'

'White Lightning libertarian'

 

[kyser_soze]

Special Brew Socialist

 

[Taxamo Welf]

took that yesterday.

 

[Thora]

Special Brew Socialist

 

[kyser_soze]

...a fiver for the next 6 pack?

 

[Taxamo Welf]

Thora you just posted that cos its good picture, be honest

 

[hipipol]

Tax is alright!!!!!

Lay off him you rowdy leftie scumbags!!!!

Bet you all work for firms of Adver-Liars!!!!!!

 

[Citizen66]

Martini Marxists.

 

[sam/phallocrat]

Before we moved, we had a look about and actually at the moment its the same price or slightly (like £5 a week) more than fully credible ex-council stock which is half the size and half as well heated, shaped etc. The fact is i'm paying £90 which is fucking amazing for what i get. If you want a lot cheaper then you share a very big house with lots of people, but it won't get much cheaper without special circumstances like knowing someone or living with the landlord etc. In short, i'm paying the same i would for a room in a big shared house further out - its not much money at all. Our friends are living together in old, cold, SEVEN PERSON houses in places like Lea Valley are paying more than us. We know its a good deal here, and we save loads on heating and water here cos its so new (and waters included).

As for gentrification, i think we need to understand what that proccess is. An area is neglected by its council and developers see cheap land to turn into a new market - people from outside the area. Now the problem here is uneven development aimed at people from outside the area which obviously favours new, richer people displacing the original residents. Although often the 'gentrifiers' are not actually richer at all, just new to the area, younger, and interested in nice shops and new developments. Now who is responsible, the people moving in, or the developers? You are going to move to what you can afford and this city is a city of immigrants. (You aren't actually from london btw, and I am, several generations at the very least). The logic of blaming gentrification on the people rather than the developers and the economic system leads you to this conlusion: everyone stay in the area they were born in. I think gentrification is often a by-word for parochialism and lazy assumoptions where actual politics should be, and i rarely use the word. You don't fight gentrification by wishing younger workers wouldn't move into the obvious choice for them, you do it by fighting for equal recognition for the longer term residents and social tenants. Which I do



no, it isn't. I lived 5 mins from you in hackney and i've lived in several other london areas in the last 22 years. Its fucking atrocious. To quote sickboy, Leith is more likely to get on the tube before Hackney.

(except with the extension of ELL it won't but hey)



...but who said that???!


Incredible links. Elephant tube = 20 mins from anywhere significant in london, and for S London you have the buses from Walworth and Old Kent Rd. Best transport links i have ever had in london.




Ok.

I rather think that some people are being a bit gratuitous now. If you need to reassure yourself about living wherever live, go for it. Its not really comparable. People going 'gald i don't live in london' are a case in point as well; you don't live in london, thread not for you

I think that's 'defensive' summed up quite nicely there

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Martini Marxists.

Heh revolution shaken not stirred...

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

Heh revolution shaken not stirred...

You should NEVER shake a martini.

 

[Taxamo Welf]

RENTED

to the nice canadian couple.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Where's our banner dammit!?