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Ms T said:
Hendo's been looking forward to this for weeks....

What has your son done on it, Shirl?
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He worked on some special effects, he works at Twickenham studios but I still don't know what exactly he does, it's not too techi though, some sort of visual effects co-ordinator I think.
 
LJo said:
Thought the editing was terrible, jumped all over the place. Lots of pointless shagging. Too many characters. Will give it a chance but compared to something as tightly plotted and focused as the Sopranos or Deadwood it doesn't really do it for me.
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Again, probably due to the BBC hatchet job on the first two -> one. The characters confused the hell out of me too, but once the factions sort themselves out, it gets easier.

Definately shouldn't be compared with Sopranos etc. The plot is wide ranging and covers years, not days. It's a different sort of show. Which means you are completely free not to like it of course :)
 
PacificOcean said:
We put in £10 million and HBO put in £50 million.

It seems to have paid off. Rome got 6.6 million last night which is huge for BBC2 and over twice that of ITV1 who got 3.5m for Star Wars II: Attack of the Clones at the same time.
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But will they get the same ratings for episode 2?
 
butchersapron said:
some parts were just Dynasty with Togas
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:D :D Watched this tonight - it reminded me of 'Up Pompei'. I liked the bit where Attia was entertaining and casually offers her guests a dormouse. :D
 
We've seen a few of these (for those who don't know, there's this strange thing called the 'interweb' that means you don't have to wait for things to come to UK telly before you watch them :p ;) ) - although it is beautifully made, it's sort of lost my interest a bit, I'll watch the rest but hoping it picks up a bit.
 
I thought the BBC had funded it all (it did look rather expensive...).

Now I understand.... :)
 
it had its moments for sure, dormouse was indeed very amusing. but.....not that gripping, too much time to get going, somewhat confused, maybe that was the editting job, I'll keep watching, but it will need to improve!
 
watched this last night and thought it was great! The thrashing of Pullo (?) in the opening scene of the 1st episode might have made me a bit biassed though.

Don't know much about Roman history so found the cultural insights very interesting, especially the slaves and other hierachies. Also my lack of knowledge means I can sit back and enjoy it rather than have to nit-pick about inaccuracies.

What's the concensus about the surgery scene in Ep 2? Did the Romans have the technology to plate skull fractures?
 
There's something about it that just doesn't gel for me. I don't know if it's the direction or what but the cast all seem to be on the verge of the giggles. It looks as if it's dubbed in places as well.
 
I somrtimes wished I was either watching a proper documentary or a straight-up drama. The language is a bit wierd - largely archaic English (know you not etc...) but some modern idiom too.

Hasn't stopped me enjoying though it though. The sex and violence helps.
 
If the BBC spent millions on this, and are treating it as a "flagship" show for BBC2, why on earth are they editing bits out on its first showing?

Seems an odd thing to do!

Giles..
 
Giles said:
If the BBC spent millions on this, and are treating it as a "flagship" show for BBC2, why on earth are they editing bits out on its first showing?

Seems an odd thing to do!

Giles..
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Only the BBC has the wisdom to pay shitloads on something and then edit the American showing to dumb it down for British viewers!
 
I thought this weeks episode was much better than last , so hopefully it will continue to get better.

Remember its a drama not a factual historical reconstruction. I was watching the documentary about I Claudius the other day and that took a while to settle in.
 
Giles said:
why on earth are they editing bits out on its first showing?
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Earlier in the thread at least one poster suggested it was more like they'd split the first episode into two for the US, to fit in more scene-setting a.k.a explanation for the terminally uninformed.

Have you ever seen a US news "show"?


The extra bits you didn't see

Caesar: I'll be off to Rome now. That's a big city in Italy, which is in Europe.

<Brandishes fake-vellum map and points>

First Aide: Sire, what's that big space over on the left?

Caesar: That's where America is going to be when they discover it. That'll be later on. Much later.

<Second Aide rushes in breathless>

Second Aide: Sire, I have the new 57 BC edition of the map of the Empire!

Caesar: Ah yes, now I can put away last year's 58 BC edition. Yes, it's strange, but we have to count the years backwards until Jesus is born. Not that we know about that yet.

But apparently from now to then is 57 years. And it'll be another one thousand seven hundred and seventy-six years after that until the Declaration of Independence is signed, in that place they're going to discover over there.

So from now until then is one thousand eight hundred and thirty-three years. And from then until the time those people looking at us through yonder little window are living in is 229 years.

<stares meaningfully at little window>

SO we're nine times as long ago, for them, as the entire history of the United States! That no-one's disovered yet. That's a very, very long time. Unimaginably long, for those people through that little window that live there.

First Aide: Oooh, you are clever, Sire. Did you do those sums in your head?

Second Aide: <unfurls new map> Sire, they even have the new colonies in Germania that you conquered just last year on here...

Caesar: Oh yes. Rome has a great Empire. It covers a lot of the known world. Though obviously not that place they haven't discovered yet, because it's not known. Yet.

And do you know what? We had to conquer some of it by force, but when the other nations saw what we'd done, several of them joined up quite voluntarily! And the better-behaved ones have their own Governors that speak their own languages!

So it's quite a lot like the American Sphere of Influence, really.

<Enter Lithping Greek>

Lithping Greek: Oooh, hello. I come to you from Athens, a very civilised city <winks> to the Eatht of Rome.

Tho even though you're all acting with British accentth to thow thothe people through yonder thmall window how Olde-Worlde you are - and thome thcurrilous helotth have suggethted that it might mean you're baddies too - where wath I?

Oh yeth, becauthe I come from a very civilised city <winks> to the Eatht of Rome, I'm a bit like a Brit. Relative to you, that ith. Camp ath fuck, I am...

<and tho on for 90 minuteth>

​
 
Go Atia! Loving her to bits. I note how they made both Titus and Caesar out to be complete shits last night, lest we be developing an affection for either of them. Lucious, on the other hand, who could bore/nag people to death at five-hundred paces and who I couldn't give a toss about, had to go all goody-goody
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Psychonaut said:
i loved it, great finale and cant wait for series 2
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Has this series ended then? Was that it? I was just getting into it as well.

I feel its developing into a fine soap opera :)
 
sparkling said:
Has this series ended then? Was that it? I was just getting into it as well.

I feel its developing into a fine soap opera :)
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Its ended in the States, though a second series is confirmed which takes place after (and i make no apologies for the following "spoiler", which lets face it everyone should know anyway) the Ides of March.

They will, one imagines, need a new Octavian though.
 
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