rivers of blood
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JHE said:
Sorry I missed the question at the end.
I live in a small town a few miles north of Rotherham. Walk into any pub you like and say a 'paki' just hit my car and ran off.
Not take long to see what I mean about the way people are talking.
For those that think Mr Griffin is a joke - think again boys and girls. That twat and his mates are dangerous.
In Bloom said:Where the fuck do you drink that anybody could get away with saying that kind of shit without getting a smack in the gob?
See my post above. I'm not very fucking happy about it myself. I may be a white anglo saxon male but the girl I'm involved with is an asian muslim.
I still love my country but do you think I want her here to listen to this shit.
munkeeunit
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JHE said:
The history of Eurpoean Fascism (a European word, concept and historically rooted ideology) suggests otherwise.
DarthSydodyas
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JHE knows every family, intimately.revol68 said:
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why do you think yorkshire (which i also like v much, espesh the Dales) hasd turned that way?big footed fred said:
Barnsley was the base of the NUM, it is sad now that their influence is waning and that such sentiments are alledgely increasingly common. Having said that using terms like 'Paki' is often common currency in the N.East: my 16yr old nephew who is a sensitive caring non homophobic, etc, boy uses the term frequently and apparently there are tensions when his youth team play sides which are predominately ethnically minorities.
JHE said:
i see what you mean. I've edited it now. It wasn't too interesting anyway.
Red Jezza said:
I can't comment on the dales but I know the Barnsley area well.
We have few non whites here and there has always been a dislike of ANY group from outside regardless of if they are from pakistan or london and with little care about the colour of their skin.
the first 'paki' taxi driver on the Barnsley rank had his car tipped over and that was only about 15 years ago.
Non whites are not welcomed here and as far as I can see will not be for a very long time. The spate of hate at the moment is a memory of the london bombs (yorkshire born muslims) and the aircraft scare we have had this last week.
Some guy is spreading a rumour/story that there are 5000 mosques in rotherham (religious establishments not having to pay council tax) and the news that the local christmas trees are not going up as the money has gone on muslim celebrations (local free paper - yes I have seen it).
It all serves to add to the hate and mistrust.
5000 mosques? isn't that more than one each?
MonkeyMagic said:
IF the story is true you need three worshipers to make a house a religious establishment.
3 muslims and a bent immam (how the fuck do you spell that?) makes a mosque and no council tax.
That's what's doing the rounds. I have no idea if there is any thruth in it.
edit - thruth and only 2 cans of carling !
sounds like bollocks to me but i think it's so funny that it should be made into an urban myth. tell 5 people you know that there are 5000 mosques in rotherham and they will tell their friends and so on and so on until eventually every muslim family in the UK lives in a mosque.
MonkeyMagic said:
What's truth got to do with politics ?
If it's true it's well out of order and BNP newsletter/daily mail fodder.
If it's a lie it's just BNP newsletter fodder.
This rumour is probably just the work of a few white folk who hate pakis. The fact that it is fodder for the BNP just means that there are plenty of dumb people around who can't figure out that we have an immigration problem without a ridiculous rumour being passed around. Either that, or they just hate pakis. In any case, the BNP aren't the only ones to use lies and hate to get votes - just look at Bush.
I'm now thinking of opening a Sikh temple in my home. No council tax, no VAT, no income tax. Sure beats working for a living. Just get loads of idiots (anybody who is into religion) through the door and I'm laughing all the way to the bank. When this Government insists on stealing all our money, this temple racket definately seems to be the way forward.
I'm now thinking of opening a Sikh temple in my home. No council tax, no VAT, no income tax. Sure beats working for a living. Just get loads of idiots (anybody who is into religion) through the door and I'm laughing all the way to the bank. When this Government insists on stealing all our money, this temple racket definately seems to be the way forward.
JHE said:
I never really answered this question and it is a good question. I could probably scour the internet and find a quote saying that Powell believed he belonged to the master race. Also I could probably find quotes saying the opposite.
Prior to WW2, for people of Powell's class and generation, the idea of the superiority of the British and European white skinned 'races' was common sense. The empire was justified by this idea (and used as proof of it).
Hitler and WW2 made it difficult, politically, to express the idea in public.
By the 1960's the empire was gone, the commonwealth was born, and the western European economy was booming. Almost full employment, free love, free concerts, the Beatles - who needs to hate anyone?
I went to school in the 1960's and rarely saw an Asian or West Indian face. I haven't checked the immigration figures but would say, anecdotally, that immigration made very little to no impact on most parts of country.
Of course Powell was in Wolverhampton where there were actually some immigrants. They were not, however, a threat to anybodys job. In many industries there was a labour shortage. So what was Powell's speech about?
Powell was not a fascist. He was a parliamentarian. I do not think he was trying to provoke riots. I do think, however, that he believed the mixing of races to be unnatural (in the eyes of God?). There was no economic threat. He was a cabinet minister. He must have known that.
He uses the provocative example of the 'grinning pikaninies' persecuting the terrifed old white woman. It's an image that suggests the 'untamed savage'. It's certainly not an image selected at random.
This is not conclusive evidence, but I think his 'rivers of blood' imagery (in the 1960's - give me a break) is the product of an over-heated racist imagination. Maybe he was having sexual fantasies about his black housekeeper (pure speculation - no idea whether he had a housekeeper).
Anyway, JHE, that's my answer.
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whaaaat? justify please.JHE said:
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