spanglechick
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Rise Festival - Saturday 8th July - Finsbury Park
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I'm definitely coming now, Tort has encouraged me, will see him and plenty of you there! I will also be back in mobile contact ...
Weather tomorrow : Pleasantly warm (24C) and quite sunny, according to the BBC forecast
Oh BTW, Hollis knows the score re Magners. Myself I'll be bringing some of my own supplies, not of Magners
, as I have no great hopes of the beer tents.
Weather tomorrow : Pleasantly warm (24C) and quite sunny, according to the BBC forecast
Oh BTW, Hollis knows the score re Magners. Myself I'll be bringing some of my own supplies, not of Magners
, as I have no great hopes of the beer tents.
Just realised that all that kicking off about Magners was in response to a throwaway/tongue in cheek (well, partly!) comment that I made, oh well!! 
Hollis
bloody furious
Looks at way thread is developing..
Some more reviews here:
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/175/568/?view=beer&sort=latest&start=20
"A Commercial, Sweetened, Filtered and Pasteurized Cider that is probably one of the worst I have ever had. Don’t even try to compare this to Real Cider. The brand is purely intended to promote an “Irishness” for Overseas imbibers and markets, and it is over-sweetened to appeal to today’s yoof market no doubt, which is fine, that’s business. But it is still a very poor Cider, so bad that not even the marketing hype can speak up for, and rescue, it. I tried this in a pretty good Irish Bar called Limericks down on Naples Island in Long Beach, CA. I noted that not many buy this ‘neat’, it is more often than not mixed with the cold Guinness half-n-half to make a ‘Black Satin’. That and cooking is probably the best use for it in my opinion."
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Some more reviews here:
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/175/568/?view=beer&sort=latest&start=20
"A Commercial, Sweetened, Filtered and Pasteurized Cider that is probably one of the worst I have ever had. Don’t even try to compare this to Real Cider. The brand is purely intended to promote an “Irishness” for Overseas imbibers and markets, and it is over-sweetened to appeal to today’s yoof market no doubt, which is fine, that’s business. But it is still a very poor Cider, so bad that not even the marketing hype can speak up for, and rescue, it. I tried this in a pretty good Irish Bar called Limericks down on Naples Island in Long Beach, CA. I noted that not many buy this ‘neat’, it is more often than not mixed with the cold Guinness half-n-half to make a ‘Black Satin’. That and cooking is probably the best use for it in my opinion."
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editor said:
I don't like cider as a rule, but do like Magners. Especially if i want a drink and don't want to get trashed. I couldn't give a fuck about the hype - I tasted some before I'd ever noticed the advertising - and sometimes it's just the job.
It really is no more complicated than that.
Numbers
an ting!
maybe in this country such a gimmick may kick off. But St Patrick's day is a bit more than that for us actual Irish. Regardless of any ad campaigns etc...Iemanja said:
I celebrate it as I always have, and always will. I don;t need no corporate slogans or the like to know why I do.
Don't believe the hype.
The English are so lost.
actually, i think Magners is an example of a company reacting to its market rather than the usual vice versa - drinkers in Ireland started putting ice in their glasses when drinking the stuff and it caught on. The brewers then realised they were onto something, rather than the other way round...
editor said:
I was in the Cutty Sark in Greenwich the other night. Some lad came up to the bar and asked for a Magners. On being told they didn't have any he looked around and went for a Carling ... despite the fact there was a proper draught cider (Addlestone's, IIRC) staring him the face. Obviously, he couldn't drink that 'cos it's not branded innit.
On-topic, I'm half tempted to go to this. I'm not heading for hull til Sunday, after all. is there a meet-up planned, or are people just drifting along as and when?
Roadkill said:I was in the Cutty Sark in Greenwich the other night. Some lad came up to the bar and asked for a Magners. On being told they didn't have any he looked around and went for a Carling ... despite the fact there was a proper draught cider (Addlestone's, IIRC) staring him the face. Obviously, he couldn't drink that 'cos it's not branded innit.
oh do fuck off!!
I don't LIKE cider. I do LIKE Magners. So if I fancy a Magners and they don't have any, I'll drink something other than cider.
Am I a witless victim of corporate brainwashing or somebody who knows what they like to drink?
Highminded bollocks, roadie, if you don't mind me saying so
Iemanja said:(this deep knowledge comes from having spent many years in the company of fully fledged Irish men
a fully fledged irishman yesterday:
Dubversion said:oh do fuck off!!
I don't LIKE cider. I do LIKE Magners. So if I fancy a Magners and they don't have any, I'll drink something other than cider.
Am I a witless victim of corporate brainwashing or somebody who knows what they like to drink?
Highminded bollocks, roadie, if you don't mind me saying so
It just seemed a bit of an insight into how well a big branding exercise can work. It wasn't aimed at all Magners drinker by any means, and it'd be hypocritical if it were 'cos I quite like the stuff too.
Roadkill said:It just seemed a bit of an insight into how well a big branding exercise can work. It wasn't aimed at all Magners drinker by any means, and it'd be hypocritical if it were 'cos I quite like the stuff too.
But in that case, why do you believe my explanation for not choosing another cider but suspect the reasons of this stranger? Sounds a bit judgemental.. He might have chosen Carling (which IMO is vile) for the same reason I'd have moved onto something other than another cider. I think you're making a prejudicial leap to fit an idea you have about the way Magners is advertised.
Dubversion said:But in that case, why do you believe my explanation for not choosing another cider but suspect the reasons of this stranger? Sounds a bit judgemental.. He might have chosen Carling (which IMO is vile) for the same reason I'd have moved onto something other than another cider. I think you're making a prejudicial leap to fit an idea you have about the way Magners is advertised.
Your explanation is that you like it, but no other cider. The kid I was referring to didn't want the Addlestone's because he'd never heard of it. So it seemed to me, anyway. IMO it's very true that people go for familiarity a lot of the time. And why not? At least it cuts your chance of buying something that turns out ot be disgusting. Branding creates familiarity. That's how it seemed to me, anyway.
Maybe I'm wrong, and maybe I shouldn't have madse that judgement, but to be fair it's not really all that important, is it?
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Tell you what. If I see you at Rise tomorrow I'll buy you a Magner's and then sit and compare it unfavourably with the real ale I'll doubtless be swigging!
Roadkill, I have a strong prediction that there'll be no real ale at this particular festival, not in the beer tent(s) anyway (unless someone has heard otherwise?)
May need to bring your own ...
May need to bring your own ...
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