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RIP Pele

Pele's goal in the 1958 WC final where he popped it over the head of the Sweden defender who tried to cut him in half then volleyed it into the bottom corner was incredible.
Nobody will win 3 world cups again, I reckon
 
RIP, legend and hero. :(

In terms of GOAT debates, as everyone has said, it depends on the era. There's a truism too that defenders had a lot more freedom to hack forwards down before, say, the 1980s. Assuming that was true, what kind of goals per game would Pele have had? Wasn't all that shabby as it was.
 
It is an age thing, but I think for middle-aged fuckers like most of us on here, Pele was the original sporting god, the one nobody else is ever going to quite measure up to. Even if we're not quite old enough to remember seeing him in his pomp. I'm sure that has a lot to do with the 1970 WC, first in colour. And he came across as a very good egg, which helps. And yes, he did have a beautiful face. Which also helps.
 
Sad day, RIP. When I first started getting interested in football (1969-70) Pelé loomed large on the landscape. I still think of the 1970 group game Brazil against England as one of the most memorable I´ve ever seen. It rocked my ten-year-old world, and ended with the marvellous image of Pelé and Bobby Moore embracing.

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That's a brilliant image.

I also love the one of him being lifted by his team mates at the 1958 final when he was balling his eyes out.
17 FFS and scored 6 goals.
 
RIP, legend and hero. :(

In terms of GOAT debates, as everyone has said, it depends on the era. There's a truism too that defenders had a lot more freedom to hack forwards down before, say, the 1980s. Assuming that was true, what kind of goals per game would Pele have had? Wasn't all that shabby as it was.
Tbf they did, but there's an argument that defenders weren't as much footballers/athletes/tacticians as they are now either, generally speaking. Pele would have been incredible in any era as he was intelligent, athletic, skillful, quick in mind as much as body...but he was ahead of his time.

I'm not denigrating the man, like lbj says he basically WAS football before I knew anything about football, but these debates tend to focus on the leniency of refs and miss out the standard of defending and tactics.
 
Thinking about it, Pele was one of those people you just instinctively loved, like Ali, long before you knew their background, life story, anything about them. Pele just was - audacious, smiling, the centre of things. Little kids who didn't care about football shouted his name when inexpertly toeing a ten-bob swerver towards a garage door goal. And cheesy and simplistic as it is, the bit in Escape to Victory where Max Von Sydow applauds Pele's overhead kick made me cry when I was a kid
 
One of the first, if not the first, global stars whose reach of fame was not just down to his football but also commercial advertising. Here's a list of some adverts he was involved in

 
"An artist in my eyes is someone who can lighten up a dark room. I have never and will never find any difference between the pass from Pele to Carlos Alberto in the final of the World Cup in 1970 and the poetry of the young Rimbaud, who stretches ‘cords from steeple to steeple and garlands from window to window’. There is in each of these human manifestations an expression of beauty which touches us and gives us a feeling of eternity."
Eric Cantona

 
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