Discussion in 'music, bands, clubs & festies' started by EastEnder, Jan 11, 2016.
Yes. I was given a copy of heroes when I was a whippersnapper
And you can be as disturbed as you like, the idea that people, in general, don't want to know about it because it's someone they admire is nonsense.
Looks like more of your sanctimonious hand wringing at the terrible state of everyone on Urban except you, something else which will come as no surprise to any regular poster.
blimey, some serious issues here! some people will use any excuse to have a pop at posters they don't like!
Funny, that's the same thing that 14 year old schoolgirl said about him after he nonced her
Glad to see your time away hasn't changed you. Still the same old OU, absolutely no self awareness and accusing others of the very thing he's doing himself.
I do agree there is an interesting discussion to be had about whether people's past dodginess should negate the admiration for the good stuff they did.
Obv a growing movement against Churchill and Ghandi.
But loads of very beloved public figures have done bad things. Just look up Dr Seuss.
i like D'wards ! I'm painfully aware of my own failings, so thanks for sticking the boot in. feel good about yourself.
I'm sorry if I've upset you, but I don't know what your failings are. Ive obviously seen your name here but I don't know you.
I largely stay away from the inter politics of u75, and hsve formed opinions or knowledge of very few posters.
I was merely reacting to your attack on me.
i was replying to a toxic poster who doesn't post anything but poison, not you.
i didn't attack you, i just thought it was a bit off to yawn at people pointing out unpalatable truths about Bowie. Don't see why he should get a pass just cos he's Bowie.
He's not getting a pass. It's just been covered extensively in this thread, over a couple of years.
It was a Yawn of "here we go again", as I find it tiresome.
Edit: Sorry I see it wasn't aimed at me now i read carefully.
Who would that be?
No one has given him a free pass, or at least you haven't cited anyone who has, so your repeated claims that people don't want to know about it because they admire bowie look like typical OU bullshit to me.
There's nothing 'toxic' about pointing that out, or pointing out that you have a significant history of this nonsense
it's flabbergasting that someone like you has the stones to criticise other posters the way you do, esp when pointing out what you consider to be a lack of self-awareness. heal thyself, sinner. poundshop pickman's
andysays is bloody good value for a pound
not really. posters who only post about other posters and board politics can take a flying jump off this board please.
---> Americanisms thread
Ever wondered what David Bowie would look like as a car? What would David Bowie look like as a car?
Dr Seuss a paedo???
Read that as What would David Bowie look like as a cat
I don't accept that's an accurate summary of my total contribution to Urban.
And your recent contribution to this thread is entirely based on you being 'disturbed' about what you mistakenly think other posters think about David Bowie, so you should probably follow your own advice and take a flying jump yourself.
of course you don't. crack on.
Although it's highly debatable. He did some war propaganda cartoons during ww2 which portrayed Hirohito in terrible Japanese caricature
Was good that I thought, the documentary.
I like seeing all the Les McQueen type characters from the numerous bands he was in before finding fame. Lots of dodgy old barnets
I watched the documentary last night ...I thought it was excellent and has really changed my perception of David Bowie. In all honesty up till now I don't really like him or his music very much. I won't dwell on it here, but in short a lot of that feeling is about his ego, i have a bit of an allergic reaction to coke-heads, his voice didn't do it for me, just overall i don't get him. Lou Reed makes perfect sense to me, by some sort of comparison.
This documentary changed all that for me. He's clearly fame driven, and has said as much himself, but its a very unusual fame impulse, as his core instincts are very uncommercial. I was really impressed by the fact that here he was as a young front man at the heart of tin pan alley, surrounded by the key players in the machine, right on the verge on making it in pop, and despite his desire to be famous he was incapable of doing anything crowd pleasing.
After failing in all those bands to come up with a commercial song he carried on, but instead of trying to work out the hit formula he instead embraced his cabaret/theatrical stylings...I love all the shit mime and Feathers stuff - I love that he followed through in that direction despite knowing thats exactly the opposite of what you need to do to get famous.
And those first three albums up to Ziggy really carried on ploughing that path of uncommericiality. My impression is they would've worked as the soundtrack to some kind of fringe musical but I know I dont want to listen to them (though now I'm a little bit more curious).
That he basically spent all those years dying on stage repeatedly and stuck with his unusual theatrical introspective direction has really endeared him to me, on an artistic level. It would seem Space Odditty was a bit of a fluke within that, in the sense that it crossed over. It had great arrangement though to be honest.
And even then he could've ended up a one hit wonder.
It all just left me with the sense of something very pure about him in terms of being a artist, and understanding how that theatricality and avant-guard cabaret and mime thing was at the heart of who he is really helps explain everything that came after.
Also finding out he was deliberately trying to sing like theatre singer Anthony Newley helped me appreciate that part of it too.
*Only one silly bit in the documentary, someone trying to make out that Laughing Gnome had something consciously in common with Waiting For My Man. More embarrassing if its true!
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