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Interesting it always seemed like a decent budget handset, however there was a big batch of them that had some serious software issues (opening web browser causing the phone to restart was one of the more fun ones)
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Interesting it always seemed like a decent budget handset, however there was a big batch of them that had some serious software issues (opening web browser causing the phone to restart was one of the more fun ones)
I think you're in similar territory to Canalys - i.e. the majority of Nokias are 'smartphones'.
Here's one of their biggest sellers, and it can do all the things you describe:
I still use one of these phones, the 6300. It does everything i need but has a shit battery life because they installed a slimline battery to keep the phone slim.
Have swapped it out for a bl5c battery with the plastic sanded down at the end of the battery and it works really well - goes for a couple of days without charging if you keep calls to a minimum
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It's got MP3, video streaming, FM radio, visual radio, Flash Lite, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, MMS, modern browser, SD slot, decent screen size, speakerphone etc etc....so it sure looks like a smartphone to me.
Do you think it shouldn't be be classed as one?
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Smartphone is a nonsense term in a sense now...my old n73 was a standard phone shape but can do all the things my iPhone can...
My 6230 could do that, although you wouldn't do it more than once...
Plus it had a radio.
I own a 6300 and I don't think of it as a smartphone.
Maybe other people who own 6300s here do think of it as a smartphone.
Hands up 63xx owners... would you say yours is a smartphone?
Write very many long emails with it?
I've got an iphone and I wouldn't write long emails with that.
And I don't listen to music on my iPhone.
I don't consider mp3 playback as a necessity for a smart phone. In fact I don't consider anything a necessity for it to be deemed smartphone. smartphone=does a lot of things. It can do them really badly or miss an important feature, because that's probably lead by budget/cost. A cheap smartphone is still a smartphone.
Smartphone is a term used to define it's place in the market, as opposed to music phone, camera phone.
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So according to you, the Blackberry Pearl isn't a smartphone, yes? Or the Storm? Neither have a full QWERTY keypad.
By my simplistic definition, they do indeed fall outside. And I suspect there's other flaws to be found in the definition, that make it counter-intuitive in respect to certain handsets.
I suppose I could change it and say "better than 12-key numeric" instead of "QWERTY". Still, in it's current form it's a definition of sorts.
And you indeed have provided another one, which has it's merits and (IMHO) it's flaws too.
But my original point here, getting back on topic, is that the Canalys figures have no definition at all.
It's a bit like discussing statistics about "the top football clubs", but not knowing whether that's the big four, the Premiership, or the everything above Conference. They're all "top football clubs" by some definition.
Does anyone know what the Canalys smartphone definition is?
Sort of a smart-ish phone but with a not very smart owner - I haven't worked out how to make picture messaging or email work. But it's got a 2gb SD card which I keep MP3s on and I do use the radio, so i guess that makes it a smart phone?
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There was some argument when it was released: http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-iphone-is-not-a-smartphone/
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