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Ricoh GR Digital prosumer reviewed

Vintage Paw said:
Ah, the high ISO performance. Since I wrote my last post I've been reading reviews, and all are mentioning pretty terrible noise at anything over iso 400, with it even quite noticeable at iso 200.
If you're looking for something to match an SLR, you'll be mightily disappointed, but compared to most digital compacts, the Ricoh is capable of some great high ISO images.

I'll post up some of mine soon, but check out some of these high ISO pics:
http://dwinnert.zenfolio.com/p203182902/

This one is superb for a compact:
http://dwinnert.zenfolio.com/p203182902/?photo=h01E13D36#31538486
 
editor said:
If you're looking for something to match an SLR, you'll be mightily disappointed, but compared to most digital compacts, the Ricoh is capable of some great high ISO images.

I'll post up some of mine soon, but check out some of these high ISO pics:
http://dwinnert.zenfolio.com/p203182902/

This one is superb for a compact:
http://dwinnert.zenfolio.com/p203182902/?photo=h01E13D36#31538486

You're right, they look good. I've seen a lot where noise isn't that noticeable when displayed at 400px, then at 700px you can almost tell, then at anything bigger it is really noticeable - so I imagine where it really becomes a problem is when wanting to print at larger sizes. But yes, I agree, it's never going to be slr quality.
 
I just bought one :o

The creative get-up :o

My credit card hurts :o

I'm not buying anything else ever again!

If I hate it I'm sending my ninja penguins of death around to sort you out ed :p
 
Well, it's been dispatched. Should have it in a couple of days. I'll post up my first results and opinions.

I really can't wait to get my hands on it. Now the initial sting of spending all that money has passed (until I get the credit card bill that is) the excitement of being able to play with it is building and building.

Now I need to get someone to buy me a ticket to NYC so I can take some cracking photos like yours ;)
 
Vintage Paw said:
Well, it's been dispatched. Should have it in a couple of days. I'll post up my first results and opinions.
Here's a tip for some surprisingly good 1600 ISO photos:

Go the SETTINGS function (MENU->IMG SET->SETTING1->etc.) and put the image quality levels to lowest saturation, mid sharpness and highest contrast.

I'll be posting up some of my NYC Ricoh GRD photos soon!
 
editor said:
Here's a tip for some surprisingly good 1600 ISO photos:

Go the SETTINGS function (MENU->IMG SET->SETTING1->etc.) and put the image quality levels to lowest saturation, mid sharpness and highest contrast.

I'll be posting up some of my NYC Ricoh GRD photos soon!

Yes, I read that somewhere on dpreview last night - sounds like a top tip :)

Can't wait to see your photos.
 
At the risk of totally spamming this thread, here I am again.

It just arrived :D

It's tiny. I don't know what I expected, but the box it arrived in was mahoosive, and the camera is a little weeny thing; it's thinner and shorter (and lighter) than my olympus xa but a touch longer.

The optical viewfinder doesn't look that obtrusive on top of it, which was something I was worried about, and indeed is very bright and looks fab. I can't see the full frame with my glasses on (but that's better than without them on, when I then can't see any of the frame coz I'm a blind fucker): I have to move the camera from side to side to see either edge of the 21mm frame, but the 28mm frame just fits in.

I've switched it on. It's a bit noisy when the lens is coming out, and when it tries to focus, but having turned off the annoying beep it isn't too bad (but sly photography in a crowded place could be a problem unless people are sufficiently distracted - we'll see).

I love the design of it, sleek, black, rubbery grip, and kinda old skool :) Thank god they didn't make it silver :eek:

It comes with a veritable ton of paperwork and manuals, which is good, and I can tell already it's going to take a while to get the hang of it. It comes ready set to auto-focus and fully auto setting, so you can switch it on and getting snapping right away. I turned it to M to fiddle with the dials and it was nice having everything at my fingertips (my D50 only has one dial, so this seems even more advanced to me than that!). Turning it to aperture priority, the setting I use the most, I noticed that aperture settings showed up on the screen but shutter speed didn't - I assume there is a way to change that? I'd like to be able to know what both settings are regardless of mode. I need to spend some serious time going through the manual.

I haven't even loaded to software yet, or put an sd card in it, so these are all very tentative first impressions - but I absolutely can't wait to get out across the foggy, misty graveyard this afternoon with it :p

If anyone wants to know - I got it from http://www.thedigitalcamerashop.co.uk - not a spam-like plug, but I know I always get worried when ordering online from someone new, and I read a lot of stuff about models from pixmania coming with all French instructions and a French warranty (which is probably why they are so much cheaper there). I was able to track my order online, they used DHL to deliver it, and were very quick. They also have a phone number on the website, which is reassuring should you not be able to email them. Well, just to say I had a good experience with them anyway.

Right, I'm off to install the software, give the battery a charge to full power, dig out an sd card, and read through that 7,000 page manual (well, okay, 200 pages :p )

Thanks ed for your gushing praise of this camera - I'm glad it convinced me to take the plunge.
 
Very first pic (apart from the obligatory ones of my slippers, the cat, the camera box etc as I unpacked it earlier), only change was to crop it to the aspect I like and hit auto levels in ps. No USM, mainly because I forgot, but I suppose it also gives you an idea of image quality right out of the camera.

http://snaps.catbc.com/snaps/random.html (large file warning)

iso 100 and yes there is noise, but contrast is low in order to still see some misty detail in the shadows, if it weren't for that noise wouldn't ne noticeable I don't think.

It was shot in RAW so I had control over the final image. However, the gr-d also creates a large, fine jpeg alongside it. I wonder if there is a way to turn that off, because it takes up valuable room on my sd card and really isn't needed. The only time I would need it is if I was shooting in black and white, since the RAW file for those is still colour, and the conversion is done in camera in the jpeg version - however, I prefer to do black and white conversions myself using the channel mixer in ps, therefore not losing control over the other settings.

Anyhoo - not a bad first image. Taking photos in the fog means at least any technical errors on my part are hidden for the most part :p
 
Vintage Paw said:
It was shot in RAW so I had control over the final image. However, the gr-d also creates a large, fine jpeg alongside it. I wonder if there is a way to turn that off, because it takes up valuable room on my sd card and really isn't needed.
Make sure you've got the latest firmware version (2.20 I think). Go to Ricoh's website!

Nice pic. It's got a good lens.
 
editor said:
Make sure you've got the latest firmware version (2.20 I think). Go to Ricoh's website!

Nice pic. It's got a good lens.

Ah, that did the trick - thanks :)

Had a bit of a 'moment' trying to work out how to do it, but got there in the end.

That photo could be considerably improved if I spent a few minutes on it, but I wanted to give a fair impression of what the camera does.
 
The ting really comes into its own when you play around with the settings.

Being able to instantly adjust exposure compensation by using the zoom rocker is superb, as is being able to adjust the wheel functions.
 
Well, the verdict is in - I love it! :D

I'm getting the hang of all the settings. Being able to shoot AP or M in RAW in a little compact is :cool: It's teeny, I'll carry it everywhere with me. I'm a little afraid it will make all my other kit a little redundent, but I'm sure the honeymoon period will work off eventually.

Anyone wondering about whether to get one:

if a fixed focal length, RAW-capable fully manual-capable mini-compact that looks sexy and has film-like noise (because all small-sensor compacts are going to have noise if they have many megapixels) is what you are looking for go for this one - you will not be disappointed :)
 
Kanda: how are you getting on with the Ricoh?

And (*wipes dribble from lips) look at this beaut:

20061016_240529.jpg


Apparently it's some limited-edition-unattainable-be-mete-mortals version that came out in Japan. *What* a looker
 
Mine broke on the weekend, lens is stuck half way out :(

Didn't drop it, no spillages, god knows what caused it. How long did it take for yours to get repaired???
 
Kanda said:
How long did it take for yours to get repaired???
Bummer :(

It's not an uncommon fault apparently - I'd insist on getting it replaced rather than sending it back for repair.

If you kick up enough fuss, you should be able to get a new one within a week - but only if there's stocks available.
 
I've had a problem with my GR and they just offered to swap it from the limited edition one (which is worth loads more). I had to decline!

Kanda: drop me a PM if you haven't already taken your camera back as I might be able to help.

Oh, and I have to say that Ricoh's after-sales service has been by far the best of any camera company I've ever dealt with.
 
GarfieldLeChat said:
some of us find a slapped arse quite pretty, regardless that is fugly...
You wouldn't fancy wearing one around your neck though, would you?

Well, not unless you're seriously weird.
 
I'll tell you what's nice - and rather unusual about Ricoh - and that's that they keep adding new features to the GR via firmware updates.

This one's coming out next week and sounds like the kind of thing that's going to please some snappers:

2007-03-22: Please, wait about a week, and then the Ricoh GR Digital will get an expanded black-and-white mode. On March 30 2007, Ricoh will publish a new firmware for its small travel/reporting camera, that will extend the b&w mode of the GR Digital with several settings.

After updating the camera, you will be able to adjust contrast and sharpness of monochrome/b&w images in five steps, in addition to b&w images also take monochrome picture with different hues (e.g. sepia), and using automatic color series record different variations (color image, b&w image, sepia hue) with only one press of the release button.

There is currently no version number available, but this will be the eighth firmware update since the market introduction of the GR Digital two years ago
 
Well, my GR should arrive tomorrow morning so I'm all a-twitter at the moment. I have already planned my day around it - from the initial battery charge, the dash into town to take my award winning photos, the adoration of the masses as I post my pictures on flickr, to the slap of the credit card bill hitting the mat in two weeks. Gulp.
 
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