No. But that is irrelevant as no-one is suggesting any penalty for leaving your car unlocked.
Richmond Cops Rob Cars
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It is up to them the do all that is reasonable to prevent crime ... society has given them that duty since they were introduced in modern form in 1829.
It is not "normal" to leave valuable and commonly stolen items insecure. Are you suggesting that the police have no right to enquire of the occupiers of a house with it's door left wide open at 3am? A shopkeeper whose back shutters are found open over the weekend? To take possession of a bag of jewellery samples (value about £250k) left unattended on a pavement on a Saturday afternoon?
Nah, it's bollocks, the police do enough reminding, there are loads of "Don't leave valuables in your car warnings etc". That's their prevention role done AFAIC, people have a responsibility to look after their own stuff.
By the same measure would they impound an unlocked car if they couldn't secure it because there was a risk of it being stolen?
By the same measure would they impound an unlocked car if they couldn't secure it because there was a risk of it being stolen?
rubbershoes
not the only raver in the village
c'mon DB that's not what the law says
Theft Act 1967
there has to be an intent to permanently deprive . thats what's missing here and that stops it being theft
stupid dogbot
Haughty and Superior
I wasn't trying to raise a counter-argument, merely wondering.
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
Don't leave your front door open/unlocked either. (at 4pm)
Dependant on the circumnstances, yes, maybe. (But of course you cannot just walk off with a whole car without taking some other proactive steps to start it, etc. They would certainly remove the keys from it if they were in it and they could not locate the owner)
It isn't actually ... the definition of the intent to permanently deprive may be there (it involves dealing with something regardless of the rights of the owner and a temporary taking may well be sufficient). Theft requires a number of aspects:
1. Dishonest
2. Appropriation (taking)
3. of Property
4. Belonging to another
5. With intent to permanently deprive the other of it
Dishonesty is the one part which is totally missing in these situations.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Typical police smug response. I see plod cars with keys in all the fucking time. Especially outside the local all night kebab shop. OK for me to take them elsewhere?
Plus you need to look at the petrol used in the above scenario, also the inevitable damage to the clutch.
paulhackett
voiced by strother martin
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stupid dogbot
Haughty and Superior
Seeing as (to the best of my knowledge) it is impossible to work out whether a car is unlocked simply by looking at it, does this mean coppers in Richmond are walking about trying to open the doors of every single parked car in a given area?
My car you can tell visually... I think that goes for quite a lot of others, too.
Callie
Pivoting
Seeing as (to the best of my knowledge) it is impossible to work out whether a car is unlocked simply by looking at it, does this mean coppers in Richmond are walking about trying to open the doors of every single parked car in a given area?
Hmm never seen a car pre what 2000?
My car has those buttony lever things.
I'd be pissed if the cops went into my car, even if I had left it unlocked (which I think I did once
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Bahnhof Strasse
Let's av ya fuckin' dancin'!
*Loads up exploding paint security brief case, drives off to Richmond...
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
"Officer, my iPod has gone missing, have you got that too?"
"Oh no, that must have been stolen before I rescued your laptop"
"Oh no, that must have been stolen before I rescued your laptop"
Blagsta
Minimum cage, maximum cage
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
Having your belongings confiscated by the police seems like a penalty to me.
Im sure they will be safe. No thieves in the plod, is there?
Blagsta
Minimum cage, maximum cage
Honest as the day is long m'lud.
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
perhaps they should start by catching criminals which would likely prevent the need for peoples stuff being removed in this fashion.
seems like a fantastic waste of cash time resources and tax payer money when they could be solving fucking crimes....
typical old bill however, go for the easy option...
I'll be not many are likely to be at risk when removing stuff from cars.
It is however outrageous
seems like a fantastic waste of cash time resources and tax payer money when they could be solving fucking crimes....
typical old bill however, go for the easy option...
I'll be not many are likely to be at risk when removing stuff from cars.
It is however outrageous
mr steev
magic thought wizard
The cops round here stole my friends car!
Well, almost.... someone had tried to nick it and got a couple of metres down the road. The police then came, towed it away, contacted my friend (whose house was metres away from the car!!!) and charged her £200 to collect it!
Well, almost.... someone had tried to nick it and got a couple of metres down the road. The police then came, towed it away, contacted my friend (whose house was metres away from the car!!!) and charged her £200 to collect it!
No. Just the ones with obvious valuables on display ...Seeing as (to the best of my knowledge) it is impossible to work out whether a car is unlocked simply by looking at it, does this mean coppers in Richmond are walking about trying to open the doors of every single parked car in a given area?
If they were being "confiscated" it would be. But they're not. They're being looked after and as soon as you want them back, you get them back.Having your belongings confiscated by the police seems like a penalty to me.
OK genius. Please explain how you can solve the theft of a laptop from a parked car using only the ten minutes or so it takes to prevent it by removing the laptop from the vehicle in the first place.
Blagsta
Minimum cage, maximum cage
That's what teachers at school would say when they confiscated things. Get it back at the end of the day.
Having my stuff taking from my car and having to go out of my way to get it back is confiscation. Dress it up how you like db, but it's a massive inconvenience and takes the piss.
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
how about using evidence to track and locate criminals from the numerous cases they already have on file and submitting this evidence to the cps to ensure the weight of it is such that is scores a conviction. or as it more commonly known as police work...
rather than this which is in essence blaming the victim for the crime.
fuck me apologist you are soooo criminally stupid...
I know you think that the police have every right to do what ever the fuck they want, i notice you disappeared again after your last little temper tantrum regard your boys actions in the city...
why stick you head up again now feel that after your disgraceful comments there that you've any credibility left as anything other than a Met fluffer...
go play with your truncheon else where really ...
the only reason you're back is cos you didn't get laid and now need to vent that frustration at the 'plebs' here to make you feel more manly again... just as always...
Blagsta
Minimum cage, maximum cage
stupid dogbot
Haughty and Superior
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