Richard Littlejohn - The War on Britains Jews?

[Andy the Don]

I'm always interested to know which companies advertise at half-time in these pitiful affairs, anyone notice?

Was it bog roll, maybe ?

Why pitiful affair..??

Did you see the programme..??

Is it a pitiful affair because:
(i) It ws presented by Richard Littlejohn
(ii) It was about anti-semetism

Actually there was a broad range of advertisers from cars to website IIRC..

 

[KeyboardJockey]

They weren't Socialist Worker banners, they were British Muslim Initiative banners.

But let's not let the facts get the way.

100 odd 'we are all hizbollah' nutter carrying them on a swappie inspired march you'd have thought the swaps would have had some control over the situation.

The point is that the swaps condoned these banners even though they didn't print them.

 

[Edie]

They weren't Socialist Worker banners, they were British Muslim Initiative banners.

But let's not let the facts get the way.

Do I give a fuck who actually printed the banners? No mate. Fact is that was a left wing march, there were fucking loads of socialist workers and other left wing groups marching side by side and a good number of people carrying these banners. Which is both pathetic and representative of Littlejohn's main point, which is that anti-semitism is becoming increasingly acceptable in left wing circles.

 

[kyser_soze]

I'm always interested to know which companies advertise at half-time in these pitiful affairs, anyone notice?

Was it bog roll, maybe ?

For the nth time...

TV ad spots are booked up to 6 months in advance against the progs predicted audience demographics (content/subject matter usually come afterwards), and since this was on C4 between 8&9 the ads will have been bought in the expectation of a 25-34 ABC1 demographic, with a bias toward urban viewers.

This is part of a strand of programming that also included that woeful Climate Change show, so there's also a chance that the airtime was bought as part of a package associated with the show.

Or C4 might simply have been trying to meet a contract TVR target...

 

[Citizen66]

Arabs = Semites.

littletwat = anti semite, plus he writes for a paper who wrote countless disparaging things about jews in the early part of the twentieth century and who's owner was friends with hitler, indeed he calls such a paper his 'spiritual home.'

Ergo, he can fuck off.

In the article about the show he was talking about the jews and trade unionists standing shoulder to shoulder against Mosely.

The mail was pro Mosely

 

[Joon]

100 odd 'we are all hizbollah' nutter carrying them on a swappie inspired march you'd have thought the swaps would have had some control over the situation.

The point is that the swaps condoned these banners even though they didn't print them.

It was a STW march against the bombing of Lebanon. Over a 100,000 people were in attendance. How on earth could the SWP have 'control' over a march that big. I think I remember you making this ridiculous argument at the time too..

 

[KeyboardJockey]

Do I give a fuck who actually printed the banners? No mate. Fact is that was a left wing march, there were fucking loads of socialist workers and other left wing groups marching side by side and a good number of people carrying these banners. Which is both pathetic and representative of Littlejohn's main point, which is that anti-semitism is becoming increasingly acceptable in left wing circles.

Spot on. The swaps condoned and tolerated such banners which speaks volumes about their position on antisemitism.

The Swaps will squrim about this but it is something theyhave to be tackled on.

 

[kyser_soze]

Oh, and you know what? I don't believe half the protestations of 'it's anti-zionism, not anti-semitism' that are made.

 

[Fruitloop]

It was a STW march against the bombing of Lebanon. Over a 100,000 people were in attendance. How on earth could the SWP have 'control' over a march that big. I think I remember you making this ridiculous argument at the time too..

This is a point that I have yet to hear a good answer for.

 

[Citizen66]

Oh, and you know what? I don't believe half the protestations of 'it's anti-zionism, not anti-semitism' that are made.

It gets up my nose though how you can't oppose Israels foreign policy without being accused of anti-semitism.

As I've said previously, nobody accuses me of racism for opposing Mugabe's home policies so where's the difference?

I don't spend my evenings pushing horse shit through letterboxes in Stamford hill and Hampstead, desecrate synagogues or any different to jews, orthadox or otherwise, than I am anyone else.

It's so lame to play that card in my opinion and it's a smoke screen for them clearly breaking international law on many issues with the west and the rest of the world looking on and not really giving a flying fuck.

 

[Belushi]

I'd walk off a demo if some twat had a 'we're all Hizbollah' placard, similarly with the one cockney rebel (I think) mentioned a couple of weeks back where a small group of Islamic Fascists were chanting 'Gas, gas, gas the Jews'.

 

[goldenecitrone]

Sounds interesting, but Richard fucking Littlejohn. If he's the only person on your side then you really are in trouble.

 

[Mallard]

Spot on. The swaps condoned and tolerated such banners which speaks volumes about their position on antisemitism.

The Swaps will squrim about this but it is something theyhave to be tackled on.

Agreed. It's pretty depressing that people either tolerate it for political gain or recruitment purposes or they just don't care who they associate with.

I dislike Littlejohn but a number of his points need answering. The treatment of the Jewish student is hardly atypical these days sadly and the anti-semitic campaign in Rochdale seems a development of the targetting of Oona King by some of Allahway's cronies.

 

[dash_two]

I'd walk off a demo if some twat had a 'we're all Hizbollah' placard, similarly with the one cockney rebel (I think) mentioned a couple of weeks back where a small group of Islamic Fascists were chanting 'Gas, gas, gas the Jews'.

Anyone who chants that needs a good booting.

 

[kyser_soze]

It gets up my nose though how you can't oppose Israels foreign policy without being accused of anti-semitism...

It does mine as well to an extent, but there are a number of people who I've talked to about this and just occassionally, when they start to get agitated, instead of 'zionist' they start to mutter about 'the jews' - and that's when my feelers start twitching.

IMO there's a VERY thin line between the two, and the 'I'm anti-zionist, not anti-semitic' stance is being used by lots of people to cover up a nastier, more unpalatable truth.

 

[Cloo]

IMO there's a VERY thin line between the two, and the 'I'm anti-zionist, not anti-semitic' stance is being used by lots of people to cover up a nastier, more unpalatable truth.

It's like the concern I mentioned in my last post on this thread about the regular 'The Israeli embassy was warned, you know' emails etc that occur around terrorist acts. I'm not one to equate anti-Israeli-ness with anti-semitism, but whispering rumours like that suggest to me a very unpleasant, and worryingly successful, attempt to plant the idea in people's minds (often otherwise reasonable people) that the Jews are 'up to something'.

 

[goldenecitrone]

It's like the concern I mentioned in my last post on this thread about the regular 'The Israeli embassy was warned, you know' emails etc that occur around terrorist acts. I'm not one to equate anti-Israeli-ness with anti-semitism, but whispering rumours like that suggest to me a very unpleasant, and worryingly successful, attempt to plant the idea in people's minds (often otherwise reasonable people) that the Jews are 'up to something'.

It's pretty widespread in Eastern Europe. I've met plently of well-educated Poles and Slovaks who believe in the Jewish conspiracy. Not to mention the Nation of Islam goons who have some influence on the black community here.

 

[kyser_soze]

Come on Cloo, you know that 'your sort' are always 'up to something'...what with your separate religious faith, cultural emphasis on community strength, education and having a good work ethic...

 

[Belushi]

Come on Cloo, you know that 'your sort' are always 'up to something'...what with your separate religious faith, cultural emphasis on community strength, education and having a good work ethic...

She works in the media you know

 

[kyser_soze]

It's pretty widespread in Eastern Europe. I've met plently of well-educated Poles and Slovaks who believe in the Jewish conspiracy. Not to mention the Nation of Islam goons who have some influence on the black community here.

The way the Poles are behaving now they're an EU member is fucking embarassing - hardcore Catholic dogmatists opposing homosexuality, abortion, calling for blasphemy laws...massively conservative socially.

 

[Edie]

It does mine as well to an extent, but there are a number of people who I've talked to about this and just occassionally, when they start to get agitated, instead of 'zionist' they start to mutter about 'the jews' - and that's when my feelers start twitching.

IMO there's a VERY thin line between the two, and the 'I'm anti-zionist, not anti-semitic' stance is being used by lots of people to cover up a nastier, more unpalatable truth.

On the money kyser.

 

[butchersapron]

Typical jew :X

 

[N_igma]

Is there anything actually wrong with supporting Hezbollah? Especially during the Israel-Lebanon conflict?

 

[Edie]

Is there anything actually wrong with supporting Hezbollah? Especially during the Israel-Lebanon conflict?

Are you taking the piss?

 

[N_igma]

Are you taking the piss?

No.

 

[STFC]

Is there anything actually wrong with supporting Hezbollah? Especially during the Israel-Lebanon conflict?

Yes. Do you have any idea what Hezbollah is and what it stands for?

 

[Blagsta]

A friend of mine who has visited Lebanon a few times with his Lebanese wife tells me that the depiction of Hezbullah as mad Islamist nutters is way off the mark. They have those factions, but they also get support from Christians, they build roads, run schools and hospitals etc. To paint them purely as Jew hating nutcases is simplistic nonsense.

 

[Edie]

TBH if you can't see anything wrong with proclaiming your support for a fanatically religious, violent political movement who specialise in bombing civilians and hostage taking and have said outright that they desire no help from Westerners then you must be a bit nuts.

Were you holding a banner then?

 

[Blagsta]

TBH if you can't see anything wrong with proclaiming your support for a fanatically religious, violent political movement who specialise in bombing civilians and hostage taking and have said outright that they desire no help from Westerners then you must be a bit nuts.

Were you holding a banner then?

That's a very very simplistic view of Hezbolla.

 

[N_igma]

Yes. Do you have any idea what Hezbollah is and what it stands for?

I do, and as Blagsta says, they're not just religious fanatic nuts that they're portrayed as. They run hospitals, charities and have support across the board in Lebanese society.