Rich kid kills two people with parents car whilst stoned - walks away

[agricola]

I do appreciate your replies, but I feel here you are going a bit detective boy...

If OB want to charge someone they know well enough to talk up the evidence to the CPS to get the charge.

In this case there were two corpses and an intoxicated driver.

That is enough for the CPS to at least get involved.

The police chose not to go there. They told the CPS that their colleague’s kid was only off his face and that had no bearing on him killing the two men he killed.

Call me a cynic...


Our judicial system makes it nearly impossible to bring a private criminal prosecution. If it were not so hard I would bet a handsome wedge it would get a good chance of death by dangerous driving conviction if put before a court.

The problem here is that it isn't enough for the CPS to get involved (certainly not at that stage anyway), and what they told the CPS when it came to charge him might actually have been what the evidence suggested in this case - an accident on an unlit, national speed limit road, at night, where the people who got killed were crossing the road (and that is not to blame them at all for this) and where the driver took some action prior to the crash to try to prevent it (at least based on what his mate said, though it would be easy to prove/disprove what he said based on the marks left on the road) is going to be very difficult to prove as death by dangerous or careless.

 

[nogojones]

I didn't know there was a legal limit for cannabis.

Yes, it's a tiny amount though. IIRC you can have a spliff today and still get done quite easily tomorrow.

 

[Ax^]

had enough time to remark that people were in the road before reacting to the situation

from his mates statement

plus people cross to a 4 star hotel and it being unlit

 

[Ax^]

Yes, it's a tiny amount though. IIRC you can have a spliff today and still get done quite easily tomorrow.

if you are a stoner (daily) you fucked if they do a drug test


best to do loads of coke on a friday

 

[Yossarian]

The whole area is full of kids with parents who replace parenting with cash, which massively fucks their kids, who go on to cause massive damage to regular folk and face little or no comeback for their actions. I could rant on all night of the scummers I used to steal off round there.

Sounds like his parents must be fairly senior coppers if they can afford to live somewhere that fancy.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

The problem here is that it isn't enough for the CPS to get involved (certainly not at that stage anyway), and what they told the CPS when it came to charge him might actually have been what the evidence suggested in this case - an accident on an unlit, national speed limit road, at night, where the people who got killed were crossing the road (and that is not to blame them at all for this) and where the driver took some action prior to the crash to try to prevent it (at least based on what his mate said, though it would be easy to prove/disprove what he said based on the marks left on the road) is going to be very difficult to prove as death by dangerous or careless.

Yeah.

Scummy Dave done it. All of a sudden and all the possible mitigation you keep repeating goes out the window.

 

[nogojones]

if you are a stoner (daily) you fucked if they do a drug test


best to do loads of coke on a friday

True. People who have one spliff a day are almost certainly over the limit all the time.

Best to get on the spice. They don't test for that on the roadside

 

[agricola]

How are you sure of that then?

The things you have listed that they originally arrested him for (death by dangerous driving), ending up charging/prosecuting him with (drug driving) and also suspected him of (driving whilst disqualified) are not obscure at all, they are obvious given what this kid did and his form. No one needed to scour books at all.

Because of how traffic officers generally investigate fatal road traffic collisions. I understand people are cynical about why this kid got away with it so lightly, and people are right to be because he did get away with it, but I am not sure how we get to "its because his parents are cops" when he has been nicked for this, had been nicked before this for drug driving, is being investigated after this for disqual driving and had five convictions in seven years. The reason he wasn't found guilty of causing those two blokes deaths by dangerous driving is because being under the influence is not by itself sufficient to support a charge for it, that IMHO is the disgrace here.

 

[agricola]

Yeah.

Scummy Dave done it. All of a sudden and all the possible mitigation you keep repeating goes out the window.

Will it, though? Its not as if they are going to move the whole scene from there to the middle of Ascot town centre at 3pm.

 

[Spymaster]

Sounds like his parents must be fairly senior coppers if they can afford to live somewhere that fancy.

Obviously coppers on the take.

 

[Yossarian]

Obviously coppers on the take.

They did at least manage to reduce the murder rate by hiding Stabby McGee's knives and giving him some odd jobs to do.

 

[Ax^]

Obviously coppers on the take.

or just cops with enough cash to buy a decent brief

also anyone know if this went to a magistrate court?

or a full hearing


if the former jesus

 

[Spymaster]

or just cops with enough cash to buy a decent brief

Don't be daft. This is U75. ACACS.

 

[Ax^]

aye it ok to get away with crimes if you have the money to pay for a good legal defence

 

[Yossarian]

I think if the parents actually gave a shit about protecting the public, they'd have been hiding the keys to the Audi long before their shitty kid killed two people with it.

 

[Spymaster]

I think if the parents actually gave a shit about protecting the public, they'd have been hiding the keys to the Audi long before their shitty kid killed two people with it.

... or saying he nicked the car.

 

[Treacle Toes]

I think if the parents actually gave a shit about protecting the public, they'd have been hiding the keys to the Audi long before their shitty kid killed two people with it.

His mum said:

"I think he really needs to learn a lesson that this can't go on. But I think he has. His behaviour is so much nicer at home.

He was clearly out of control at home too. Why weren't they already hiding the fucking keys before he killed people?

 

[Spymaster]

But, but, but...

Would like to see the reaction here if one of these self important, entitled little cunts killed one of the relatives of those posting 'yeah..but' posts. Actually disgusting tbh.

Was this referring to me, btw?

 

[sleaterkinney]

Surprised team Top Gear haven't mentioned the car he's driving. Lol.

The law is slanted massively in favour of the motorist. If he did get done for death by careless driving he probably wouldn't go to jail then either.

 

[equationgirl]

He's learned a lesson alright, that he can kill people whilst driving under the influence but fuck all consequences will happen.

 

[seventh bullet]

Parents are pigs. Pigs decided that they would have been killed regardless of the stoned state of the piglet.

I know I shouldn't, but 'piglet' lol.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Hopefully family/friends of the deceased will whack the cunt.

#vigilantism

 

[8ball]

I wasn't aware there was a "legal limit" for blood cannabis levels.

 

[Spymaster]

I wasn't aware there was a "legal limit" for blood cannabis levels.

A legal limit for an illegal substance

 

[Mr.Bishie]

I wasn't aware there was a "legal limit" for blood cannabis levels.

Does it say that in that horseshit article then?

 

[Mr.Bishie]

A legal limit for an illegal substance

Innit!

 

[Pickman's model]

Parents are pigs. Pigs decided that they would have been killed regardless of the stoned state of the piglet.

the beatles knew what to do with pigs. As they put it, in their eyes there's something lacking, what they needs a dam' good whacking

 

[8ball]

A legal limit for an illegal substance

Indeed. There are plenty of references to it on the net.
Learn something every day...

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

I wasn't aware there was a "legal limit" for blood cannabis levels.

A legal limit for an illegal substance

Yep, for coke, smack and all sorts now. Does seem a bit wtf though. The limits are pretty much nil though, not two spliffs or owt like you get with booze.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Indeed. There are plenty of references to it on the net.
Learn something every day...

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