Revolutionary Islam

Discussion in 'theory, philosophy & history' started by Kalfindin, Jul 19, 2014.

  1. redsquirrel

    redsquirrel This Machine Kills Progressives

    And of course even admitted it himself.
     
  2. gorski

    gorski customised free radical

    Fook, it took me quite a bit of time to go through 15 pages of this... 'Some tortured souls in here... :p :D

    Look, going back to the title of the thread: in Islam one can't hold any rights, unless they are mediated by Quran! So, kiss your Human Rights good bye, i.e. one can't "hold" any inherent, inalienable, universal rights of any kind, least of all fundamental ones, simply by virtue of being Human!

    The little problem we have here is that Quran must be interpreted. We know what that means on this Earth, in those states.

    To add insult to injury, there are no serious hierarchical structures in Islam to check such interpretations...

    Ergo, any old hoja could make your life a misery, on a whim...

    Ermmm, can one get a "second opinion"? :rolleyes: :D

    I mean, look at this: http://www.hriran.com/en/archive/1360-qhuman-rights-have-no-place-in-islam.html - there's your "French connection" right there... :D

    More? OK: http://books.google.it/books?hl=en&...1TrAzX10V1ncqQnY9PQ2K1nek#v=onepage&q&f=false

    http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/25659365?uid=2&uid=4&sid=21104324211341

    http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/1051518?uid=2&uid=4&sid=21104324211341

    ....
     
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  3. gorski

    gorski customised free radical

    Btw, there are such options as agnosticism... ;)
     
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  4. dialectician

    dialectician The Main Enemy is at home.

    You could haphazardly reconcile islam with crude dialectical materialism, especially the shia varieties. But. Er. why would you want to do such a thing?
     
  5. gorski

    gorski customised free radical

    To troll? :D :D :D Lots of those around here... :D
     
  6. dialectician

    dialectician The Main Enemy is at home.

    Actually in typical Stalinist fashion the peoples Mojahedin of Iran tried to do this. It caused them to ally with the islamic sections of the so-called progressive bourgeoisie.

    Says it all really. :D
     
  7. gorski

    gorski customised free radical

    Mujaheed, I think... Mujahedeen is not a kind expression, if memory serves... ;)

    I will pretend I understand this "alliance"... :D :D :D
     
  8. dialectician

    dialectician The Main Enemy is at home.

    No Mujaheed means individual struggler, Mujahedeen is the plural. In turkish the word for struggle is mücadele (where ü ıs pronounced lıke the German U umlaut and C lıke J...) arabic/persian root obviously... So class struggle is sınıf mücadelesi, no religious connotation here.
     
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  9. gorski

    gorski customised free radical

    Ha, thanx - I've got it mediated by Bosnians and those guys seem to have been "misinformed"...

    Oh, well, must dig into that a bit more, just for the Hell of it all.. :D
     
  10. dialectician

    dialectician The Main Enemy is at home.

    classic.
     
  11. likesfish

    likesfish officaly hardest and most tooled up urbanite:)

    I'm pretty sure any belief system that considers nonadherents as property richly deserves to place its unshakeable faith in god against assorted computer geeks armed with Hellfire missiles:D
     
  12. 8ball

    8ball BUY QUALITY SLAT NOW!!

    Happy days.
     

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