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Revolting London: anarchists against the Mayoral elections, 2 May 2008

The Trout? can't remember her real name. she was a right horror. i remember me and Ian took her and Dave through to Glasgow to meet the Clydeside @s. think she was a bit put out when she saw their source 'fund raising' - "The Gentlemans' Stall" ie Big John's porn video and wank mag market stall :)

Yea, Andy and angie were sound. Is anyone still in ouch with them?

Haven't seen Tim since we went along to his club along Chapel Market a couple of years ago. maybe he's still doing it. ('Tighten Up' ?)

wonder if anyone will have found God? :D


Well Norm found Bhudda!
 
In view of the BNP threat in these elections, isnt there an obligation for Anarchists to vote, in the list elections solely, for the least worst candidate of the rest?
 
actually, you could make an argument that everyone SHOULD vote for Boris as that would mean that

a) the tories wouldnt stand a chance of getting in again as boris will fuck everything up and put most of their potential voters well off them. and labour are already fucked so who knows what could happen?

b) the fact he will reduce london's infrastructure to something like rawanda will hasten any potential for social unrest.

or not.
i dunno.
i'm more intersted in the Eurovision Song Contest to be honest. :)
 
In view of the BNP threat in these elections, isnt there an obligation for Anarchists to vote, in the list elections solely, for the least worst candidate of the rest?

I imagine quite a few of them will have already voted by post, thus avoiding the ignominy of being seen at the polling station.

The question is, for whom?
 
I think yesterday does need to be discussed in terms of what we expected and what actually happened, but looking at some of the tripe on this thread Im thinking we could do without the BS, quite frankly.
 
I think yesterday does need to be discussed in terms of what we expected and what actually happened, but looking at some of the tripe on this thread Im thinking we could do without the BS, quite frankly.

What DID happen? Cant see a report anywhere...
 
What DID happen? Cant see a report anywhere...

I arrived late, there was 70 odd people* there and police lines were already moving people. After mingling for a short period police formations basically forced people into a pen (which was predicatble and I cant understand the oversight tbh) which when sealed held about 40 odd people, a few people managed to get out.
After the usual banter, and exchanges with the police they informed us we were being held under the breach of peace act indefinitely, while the BNP roamed around unmolested - and that if we wished to do so we could leave in ones and twos (although this initially included searches and photographing from what I gather). Within four hours most had left the pen but some tried to insist on being allowed to leave collectively, but this didnt happen again under the terms layed down by the police that we were a threat to the peace.

The embankment turned out to be a bit of entertainment for a few onlookers (Im not sure how sympathetic some of them were tbh) we even had the fellow from newsnight down :D some werent and we got the usualy atagonistic cunts asking dumb questions, but some 'support' later turned out to be anarchos who were shouting ;)

In terms of assessing the event I think it was a mess, and Im not inclinned to think more preparation, more resources etc would make the event any better. Im not slagging people off btw, I supported the event and dished out a share of the leaflets. I actually think showing opposition to Boris, the BNP et al is important, its just a shame it was just anarchos and their millieu. We have to discuss this openly and seriously address our lack of influence in London and wider.

* although my understanding is a few people had already begun to dissipate by this point
 
John Astley, LibDem councillor for Lawrence Hill

I think the Bristolian was brilliant for general awareness raising and so forth about the council and other local gravy trainers, reinforcing the disillusionment of the masses with our glorious leaders and so forth. Few solid results though, which is a pity.

... err, it was the Evening Post that was first with that story.... :hmm:
 
I arrived late, there was 70 odd people* there and police lines were already moving people. After mingling for a short period police formations basically forced people into a pen (which was predicatble and I cant understand the oversight tbh) which when sealed held about 40 odd people, a few people managed to get out.
After the usual banter, and exchanges with the police they informed us we were being held under the breach of peace act indefinitely, while the BNP roamed around unmolested - and that if we wished to do so we could leave in ones and twos (although this initially included searches and photographing from what I gather). Within four hours most had left the pen but some tried to insist on being allowed to leave collectively, but this didnt happen again under the terms layed down by the police that we were a threat to the peace.

The embankment turned out to be a bit of entertainment for a few onlookers (Im not sure how sympathetic some of them were tbh) we even had the fellow from newsnight down :D some werent and we got the usualy atagonistic cunts asking dumb questions, but some 'support' later turned out to be anarchos who were shouting ;)

In terms of assessing the event I think it was a mess, and Im not inclinned to think more preparation, more resources etc would make the event any better. Im not slagging people off btw, I supported the event and dished out a share of the leaflets. I actually think showing opposition to Boris, the BNP et al is important, its just a shame it was just anarchos and their millieu. We have to discuss this openly and seriously address our lack of influence in London and wider.

* although my understanding is a few people had already begun to dissipate by this point

Couldn't agree more. The recognition of the fact that fewer and fewer people are interested in actively becoming involved in anarchist politics - the bookfair may be growing but.. - needs t be addressed. Anarchists have far too long survived off an identity which has been built up by struggles over the last centuries, riots of 10 years ago, movements, organisations that have long gone.

There is no option but for anarchists in London to start from scratch, to reflect on our current standings and put into place ideas and strategy over the next few years to grow a new base of activity around london on key issues.

We were no more than 100 people tops (as I expected) - we lacked confidence and purpose.

One last thing, a few us bumped into some BNP later on - which apparently were mingling with the NF supporters outside City hall. Heres the story
http://publish.indymedia.org.uk/en/2008/05/398103.html

In solidarity

raw

p.s. do you know the NF got 35,000 votes!!! what the fuck?!:mad:
 
Yep, and mostly in their old stomping grounds of the late 70s ...

The thing was that all the BNP supporters voted for the NF constituency members (only 4 in the usual areas) as BNP didn't run any. Interesting to see that the base support of the BNP lends it self quite easily to supporting even more extreme candidates.

Welcome ladies and gentlemen to 1979 again! And this time the left and anarchists have even less capabilities. What would happen if the BNP start organising public meetings? Demonstrations? What will you do?
 
The thing was that all the BNP supporters voted for the NF constituency members (only 4 in the usual areas) as BNP didn't run any. Interesting to see that the base support of the BNP lends it self quite easily to supporting even more extreme candidates.

Welcome ladies and gentlemen to 1979 again! And this time the left and anarchists have even less capabilities. What would happen if the BNP start organising public meetings? Demonstrations? What will you do?

On another thread I suggested that someone add up the total of the far right parties % increase and also plot that against high immigration areas - going further measuring against old stomping grounds as well.

No doubt the BNP and NF have a tacit (or explicit) agreement not to stand in each other's constituencies.

I wonder how long it will be before the NF start to try and develop that thin veneer of respectability that the BNP have managed over the past few years?

Their website is still as mental as the BNP's used to be atm.
 
There is no option but for anarchists in London to start from scratch, to reflect on our current standings and put into place ideas and strategy over the next few years to grow a new base of activity around london on key issues.

you said it ...
 
Long write-up here:

Is this what a police state looks like?
Posted by Claire Provost
New Statesman
03 May 2008

Hours before Boris Johnson took the platform outside City Hall to
proclaim his victory as the next mayor of London, anarchists and
anti-fascist activists assembled along the Queen's Walk to protest the
elections and in a bid to blockade Richard Barnbrook and other members
of the British National Party from approaching City Hall.

Protestors trickled in down the path from Tower Bridge, dispersing
among the crowds of camera-toting tourists and their toddlers, high
school volleyball teams on school trips, students and local workers.
But what was planned as a protest against the elections and a blockade
of the BNP became little more than a demonstration of power by the
London Metropolitan Police and the now-notorious Forward Intelligence
Team (FIT).

http://www.newstatesman.com/200805030006
 
Spoiled somewhat by the BNP trolls posting to the comments section.

I wonder how the FIT team would cope with thousands of anti-fascists descending on City Hall?
 
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