Return of the Mandelson

[Kaka Tim]

David Blunkett is cock a hoop -

"Former home secretary David Blunkett described his appointment as a "masterstroke" and told the BBC it would unite the government.

"It is embracing someone who, in the past, had been seen as being very close to Tony Blair, so it's an inclusive measure," he said. "


What planet are these people on?

Its like the tories bringing back Norman Tebbit or something.

 

[danny la rouge]

What planet are these people on?

Planet Ruling Elite. Thinner air, apparently.

 

[Zachor]

What planet are these people on? .

Planet Arrogance.

Its like the tories bringing back Norman Tebbit or something.

Yup.

 

[untethered]

Mohammed Fayed as business secretary.
George Galloway to defence.
Margaret Beckett as foreign secretary.
Gordon Brown as prime minister.

Only slightly more ridiculous than what we've got at the moment.

Still, I imagine few tears will be shed for Des Browne. Geoff Hoon must be smarting having been tipped for Mr Mandelson's job in Brussels, only to get Transport.

 

[Zachor]

Mohammed Fayed as business secretary.
George Galloway to defence.
Margaret Beckett as foreign secretary.
Gordon Brown as prime minister.

Only slightly more ridiculous than what we've got at the moment.

Still, I imagine few tears will be shed for Des Browne. Geoff Hoon must be smarting having been tipped for Mr Mandelson's job in Brussels, only to get Transport.

Deckchairs on the Titanic really isn't it.

 

[Zachor]

A great comment from one of the posters on Harry's Place.

"By inviting Mandelson back into the Cabinet Brown is now no longer the most hated politician in Britain"

 

[ViolentPanda]

There is 'lovable rouge' as in comic characters like Neil Hamilton and there are dodgy divisive tossers such as Mandleson.

That'd be the same Neil Hamilton who was a member of "The Monday Club", and who attended neo-nazi meetings as a member of the FCS?

 

[butchersapron]

With Roland Gift?

 

[Zachor]

That'd be the same Neil Hamilton who was a member of "The Monday Club", and who attended neo-nazi meetings as a member of the FYC?

Yup. Or if you want someone less flaky what about David Mellor for the lovable rogue hat?

Still not as stomach churning as bringing Mandleson back.

 

[King Biscuit Time]

That'd be the same Neil Hamilton who was a member of "The Monday Club".

So the lad likes a few cheap pints in Wetherspoons on a Monday. I don't see why that should be held against him.

 

[ViolentPanda]

With Roland Gift?

Bastard!

 

[untethered]

That'd be the same Neil Hamilton who was a member of "The Monday Club", and who attended neo-nazi meetings as a member of the FYC?

They were great days, though.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Yup. Or if you want someone less flaky what about David Mellor for the lovable rogue hat?

Still not as stomach churning as bringing Mandleson back.

You know what type of shitbag you're getting with Mandelson.

The likes of Hamilton, who've spent their political careers walking a fine line between their inner beliefs and what the Conservative party would let them get away with, are far more "stomach-churning" to me.

 

[Fedayn]

They were great days, though.

yes, having leading FCS lights, like Harry Phibbs, demanding the legalisation of child porn as part of a free market philosophy certainly counts as 'great days'.......

 

[Zachor]

You know what type of shitbag you're getting with Mandelson.

The likes of Hamilton, who've spent their political careers walking a fine line between their inner beliefs and what the Conservative party would let them get away with, are far more "stomach-churning" to me.

No the point is that Mandleson is acknowledged as being a shitbag so why bring him back. Bad Bad mistake.

At least Tory party discipline kept the loons in check and there were always enough decents in the Tory party to keep the lid on the loons. With NL the unprincipled loons are the ones who run the show.

 

[Fedayn]

At least Tory party discipline kept the loons in check and there were always enough decents in the Tory party to keep the lid on the loons.

Apart from being a mile wide of the mark you're spot on.

 

[Zachor]

Apart from being a mile wide of the mark you're spot on.

I don't think I am wide of the mark. Both major parties had their headbangers but there were enough ordianry joes in positions of authority in local parties and reasonable people as MP's to keep the headcases in check.

 

[ViolentPanda]

They were great days, though.

For Mostyn and his fellow goose-steppers, anyway.

 

[danny la rouge]

Apart from being a mile wide of the mark you're spot on.

 

[Fedayn]

I don't think I am wide of the mark. Both major parties had their headbangers but there were enough ordianry joes in positions of authority in local parties and reasonable people as MP's to keep the headcases in check.

I think you might want to scratch that surface a little....

 

[ViolentPanda]

No the point is that Mandleson is acknowledged as being a shitbag so why bring him back. Bad Bad mistake.

Why bring him back?

The phrase "long-term scapegoat" springs to mind.

At least Tory party discipline kept the loons in check and there were always enough decents in the Tory party to keep the lid on the loons. With NL the unprincipled loons are the ones who run the show.

No it didn't.
many of the "loons" were mainstream tory back-benchers with hard-right connections written through them like in a stick of rock. Parliamentary "loons" like Ridley and Joseph had immense influence, as did outsiders such as David Hart.

 

[Hocus Eye.]

There is 'lovable rouge' ...

I would like to see a lovable 'rouge' in the Labour Party. But he or she would never get a chance in New Blue Labour.

 

[danny la rouge]

I would like to see a lovable 'rouge' in the Labour Party.

Not a chance. I left when Kinnock took over.

 

[untethered]

yes, having leading FCS lights, like Harry Phibbs, demanding the legalisation of child porn as part of a free market philosophy certainly counts as 'great days'.......

We were all on a pretty steep learning curve. If the FCS weren't there to think the unthinkable, who was?

 

[exosculate]

This is just too funny. Are they really this stupid and out of touch?

 

[TomPaine]

Any why does he think this will help?

Wasn't Mandy at Bilderberg this year? lol! Perhaps he is hoping he can have a word the ear of other world elites and tell them Brown isn't as crap as the press make him out to be.

TomPaine

 

[Stoat Boy]

For me its more the level of Mandlesons corruption that makes his return unreal.

He borrowed money, which he did not declare, from Geoffrey Robinson who was being investigated for his role in the Maxwell pension scandal by the very department that Mandelson was heading up at the time.

Now the fact that he was then allowed back into Government after that was bad enough but then, after the passport fiasco, for him to return a third time makes a mockery about accountability and slurs on the Tories over slease.

For me Labour slease has put what the Tories ever supposedly did into the shade but I concede that others would argue differently. But is there any Conservative who has been so guilty of it and then given not one but two chances to come back into Government ?

 

[weltweit]

Brown and Mandelson are like disgruntled lovers, they can't decide if they love or hate each other.

 

[exosculate]

Wasn't Mandy at Bilderberg this year? lol! Perhaps he is hoping he can have a word the ear of other world elites and tell them Brown isn't as crap as the press make him out to be.

TomPaine

Be careful, mentioning Bilderberg on here is, to some, tantamount to saying you are a conspiraloon.

 

[Hocus Eye.]

...For me Labour slease has put what the Tories ever supposedly did...

Yes the Tories were stitched up . They were in fact as pure as the driven snow. All of the stories against them were made up my hostile media sources. They never dunnit.