Retro 35mm cameras.
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ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
It's only appropriate to roll your eyes when you haven't been a div, Stan.Stanley Edwards said:
Right.
Anything Leica-like (including accessories) made by "Reid and Sigrist", any Nikon copy of the Contax II, but especially the Nikon S3 and SP, which generally sell for more than the Contax originals do (better shutters, lighter weight), and the Canon Leica II/III copies (all of which are good, but the Canon IIB and III generally make better prices than their Leica counterparts, while the others of the range make about the same.What were those trusted names you mentioned?
If you look into the murky world of Leica copies you'll probably be amazed at the ridiculous prices. I've (very occasionally) picked up a Japanese Leica clone for £2-3 and sold it for a ton after cleaning and adjusting it. Leica obsessives are often leica copy obsessives too, the weirdos.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Cid said:Sex:
Not cheap though...
Worth looking around the flea markets in Brighton, they have some lovely old kit for a pittance, including old 8mm video cameras and the like (although you have to pay a fortune to develop that stuff afaik).
Do you mean cine?
yeah ive got some lovely cine cameras couple of 9.5mm and a couple of standard 8mm wind up jobs also got a 9.5mm projector but the films of felix the cat are fucked now
most of my collection are old 120 box and bellows cameras very few of which work, when they changed the 120 spools from metal to plastic they stopped fitting most of the old cameras which means respooling the film shooting it then respooling back onto plastic for processing
ive got a lovely 127 stereoscopic camera too but the bastards stopped making that format a while ago
and an edixa standard with wlf and two lenses and a Kodak instant camera for which they got done for patent rights by polaroid
most of my collection are old 120 box and bellows cameras very few of which work, when they changed the 120 spools from metal to plastic they stopped fitting most of the old cameras which means respooling the film shooting it then respooling back onto plastic for processing
ive got a lovely 127 stereoscopic camera too but the bastards stopped making that format a while ago
and an edixa standard with wlf and two lenses and a Kodak instant camera for which they got done for patent rights by polaroid
Stanley Edwards said:...
But, look at this absolute gem of a 35mm RF outfit currently at £25!
Hmmmm. Bidding is hotting up. Currently at £52. I'm seriously tempted to put a kill everyone bid in. Have to go out shortly and there's only a couple of hours left. I really fancy this outfit.
Perhaps not... hmmmm... ???
Okay. Deed done 
Anyone wants it for more than that they can have it. Probably going to cost a ton to get it posted to Granada also
Anyone wants it for more than that they can have it. Probably going to cost a ton to get it posted to Granada also
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Stanley Edwards said:Okay. Deed done
Anyone wants it for more than that they can have it. Probably going to cost a ton to get it posted to Granada also
Lost it to someone called Ernesto
There will be others.
Nice camera, but I was sure £80 had it won
e2a; Oh, hold on. 5 minutes left! Hmmmmmmmm......
I do like it lots, but, but, but...
e2a2;
Nah. There will be others.
e2a3;
Went for £107. A good buy on the face of it. However, when you consider a mint Canon AE1 went for just £14 yesterday...
This ebay thing is very irregular!
friedaweed
Me and me girl named Jane
ViolentPanda said:You want some, do you, comrade?
A man after my own heartless cause. My collection is currently small but once i have more of these Polish lackeys bidding for me on ebay i will have the market cornered. They'll work for .1% of the profit after servicing the cameras and replacing the seals. I've even got one guy who can make exact copies of original leather cases from roadkill. I feel it's only a matter of time before even old Lech Walesa gives up his Zorki to my collection and developing empire.
In my garage i have a team of Chechen's striping down skateboards, pogo-sticks and roller-blades and using the parts to make exact copies of Leica's. (Zenie what colour do you want yours in?).
Keep out of Eastern Europe dullards it's mine
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
i want one but they is illegal...friedaweed said:
I so want one of these
http://www.epuk.org/News-snippets/443/gun-cameras-outlawed
i guess if they will shoot you for a table leg... it's prolly not worth ... etc...
friedaweed
Me and me girl named Jane
Wtf
Might be worth its own thread round these parts
from that linkGarfieldLeChat said:
http://www.epuk.org/News-snippets/466/vista-breaks-raw-files
Might be worth its own thread round these parts
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
maybe but then ms picture viewer has been deleteing exif data for years and people still use it...friedaweed said:from that link
http://www.epuk.org/News-snippets/466/vista-breaks-raw-files
Might be worth its own thread round these parts
done however
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=5749437#post5749437
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Cid said:
But you don't need to process 8mm video tape (unless you're talking about some arcane professional standard) you just need an adaptor for the cassettes, AFAIR.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Stanley Edwards said:Lost it to someone called Ernesto
There will be others.
Nice camera, but I was sure £80 had it won
e2a; Oh, hold on. 5 minutes left! Hmmmmmmmm......
I do like it lots, but, but, but...
e2a2;
Nah. There will be others.
e2a3;
Went for £107. A good buy on the face of it. However, when you consider a mint Canon AE1 went for just £14 yesterday...
This ebay thing is very irregular!
SLR prices are totally fucking weird. There are a few cameras (Nikon Fs & FMs, Canon F1s and T90s, Alpas, Olympus 3s and 4s and 2SPs) that hold their prices, but many of the rest can be had for "silly money".
The sellers' loss is our gain, Stanley!
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Wilson said:
No probs.
Just bought myself a lovely gift
£32 but, it comes with all the right accessories including a Weston MasterIII light meter and lens adapter. And, look at the condition
What's more, this will actually make me money when I use it as a retro wedding photographer (alongside my more reliable Contax RX's and Hasselblad of course) but, it looks the way I want to look!
£32 but, it comes with all the right accessories including a Weston MasterIII light meter and lens adapter. And, look at the condition
What's more, this will actually make me money when I use it as a retro wedding photographer (alongside my more reliable Contax RX's and Hasselblad of course) but, it looks the way I want to look!
A Fiver!
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Stanley Edwards said:Just bought myself a lovely gift
£32 but, it comes with all the right accessories including a Weston MasterIII light meter and lens adapter. And, look at the condition
What's more, this will actually make me money when I use it as a retro wedding photographer (alongside my more reliable Contax RX's and Hasselblad of course) but, it looks the way I want to look!
Beautiful and quite a bargain too, given that it looks in extremely good nick!
Did it come with other lenses? Cos they're ever-so-slightly expensive, and they're really prone to balsam separation.
Lovely cameras though, although I prefer (because it's WAYYY lighter than an Icarex) my Contaflex
Stanley I think you are wasting your money buying other peoples old junk. You can't tell the condition of a camera by looking at the outside of it especially in a photograph. You won't be able to sell it on and will end up throwing them away.
Certainly a Hassleblad might be good, and for wedding photography a Rollieflex (better than the Rolliecord) but very few old 35mm SLRs are worth buying unless you can get your hands on them and check them out in a shop. The world is full of old cameras.
Certainly a Hassleblad might be good, and for wedding photography a Rollieflex (better than the Rolliecord) but very few old 35mm SLRs are worth buying unless you can get your hands on them and check them out in a shop. The world is full of old cameras.
ViolentPanda said:
Tar. I'm very happy. No spare lenses, but it does come with an M42 adapter so, all is hunky dory on the lens front.
Hocus,
These are beautiful things and 'easily' repairable if you know what you're doing. Fiddly and time consuming - not really a for profit operation, but enjoyable. Wasting my money? I regularly piss £30 (and all the rest) down the drain on a night out in London (or, at least I used to). Just as much fun and sometimes the memories lasted but, these will last forever. What's more, watch me sell those I've bought to sell for at least four times the price I've paid.
The Zeiss will be a focal point for wedding photography. A sales aid that will make people remember 'the guy with the old camera that shot all that beautiful B&W reportage stuff'.
I love using Contax for the same reason. Beautifully engineered, beautifully designed and built to last. How many people are already binning the digital they bought just three years ago?
Don't think I've ever lost money on a camera. Always bought quality, collectable secondhand.
How can you waste money on an excellent condition Fujica for £1 or, an excellent+++ Canon QL for a fiver? The Zeiss is exceptional to me and I will never sell it. Top value.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Most manual cameras (and the Icarex has zero electronics) are fairly easy to repair. The Icarex 35 Stanley has bought has the added bonus of having a Compur leaf shutter rather than a focal plane shutter, which makes it far easier to repair/"Tune up" the shutter. Added to that, Zeiss is the single most collectable name in the mid-price vintage camera market.Hocus Eye. said:
I've bought quite a few good-looking paperweights in my time for a couple of quid each, spent maybe 4-5 hours all-told getting them working well, and made an obscene percentage of profit from selling them on.
friedaweed
Me and me girl named Jane
Can you fix my £1 Beirette the shutters fucking stuckViolentPanda said:
I'm thinking screw-drivers, I'm thinking bottle of tequila, I'm thinking i may regret this
Any advice Mr Miyagi
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
friedaweed said:Can you fix my £1 Beirette the shutters fucking stuck
I'm thinking screw-drivers, I'm thinking bottle of tequila, I'm thinking i may regret this
Which Beirette model is it, Grasshopper? 'Cos you might not need screwdrivers or tequila, but rather some naptha (Zippo lighter fluid) and a very well-ventilated workspace.
E2A: Can you post a pic, as some of them don't have model nos, IIRC.
VP
I know about Compur shutters. Not all leaf shutters are Compur design though, they are very accurate because they have a mechanism related to part of a clock mechanism. Leaf shutters are often just behind the lens but quite often Compur shutters will be in between the lens elements where they remain safe from dust.
I had a Beirette years ago. I can't remember if the shutter was behind or between the lens elements though. Mine was the metal one with f/stops and shutter speeds marked rather than the plastic one with sun symbols.
I know about Compur shutters. Not all leaf shutters are Compur design though, they are very accurate because they have a mechanism related to part of a clock mechanism. Leaf shutters are often just behind the lens but quite often Compur shutters will be in between the lens elements where they remain safe from dust.
I had a Beirette years ago. I can't remember if the shutter was behind or between the lens elements though. Mine was the metal one with f/stops and shutter speeds marked rather than the plastic one with sun symbols.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Hocus Eye. said:
Some of the Beirettes have the shutters between the lens cells, others (the newer and cheaper ones usually) behind. The most usual problem is from crud sticking to the shutter blades (usually in the "behind the lens" shutters), which can be solved by gently swabbing the rear of the blades with naptha and then opening the aperture wide, removing the lens cells in sequence and swabbing the front of the blades while operating or attempting to operate the shutter.
The second most usual shutter problem is the escapement lubrication turning gummy. The only way I've found to solve this is to extract the shutter (removing any plastic) and soak it in a jar of naptha until the lubrication dissolves, then applying (a minute amount of) fresh lubricant.
That said, while I'll have a go with Prontor, Vario, Vebur and most other shutters, I won't go near a Compur because they're so much more finely engineered, and so much easier to fuck up!
