I'd like to be a kind of "good" lawyer like one who represents people who don't have much money, rather than a ruthless corporate litigation lawyer or whatever.
One of my mum's friends retrained as a solicitor jn her 40s, she ended up doing contracts and stuff for some company though so good hours/money but no exciting court room stuff.
that sounds PERFECT tbh.
I'll ask her about it. I'm not sure if she had to do a whole law degree or just a conversion course, and then she did like an apprenticeship at our local (small town) solicitors.that sounds PERFECT tbh.
Also I'd like to think if I had a law degree I'd be earning a lot more money than I do teaching 4 year olds

It is interesting. I think it's a kind of magicI kind of fancy something new, reached a bit of a dead end in my current role... and my brain finds legal stuff weirdly interesting.
using the same everyday words we use to chat to our friends to create binding obligations.Absolutely not, although most (not all) of them are not in the slightest bit family friendly.but really, is every single job linked to law totally shit?
God, that's true. Never joined those dots.Get used to always thinking worst case scenario. Anxiety is a bedfellow.
That is sad. And appears to be less true in the fields of employment and equality law!I know many solicitors, the majority of whom seen to regret their choice of career.
And that is why legal jobs in the civil service used to be so very popular among women. The civil service had good policies on maternity and family friendly working.It is interesting. I think it's a kind of magicusing the same everyday words we use to chat to our friends to create binding obligations.
Absolutely not, although most (not all) of them are not in the slightest bit family friendly.
God, that's true. Never joined those dots.
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- Psychological distress, dissatisfaction and substance abuse that begin in law school follow many graduates into practice.
- Only half of lawyers are very satisfied or satisfied with their work.
- Chronic stress can trigger the onset of clinical depression.
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but really, is every single job linked to law totally shit?
english, 2:1... then many years experience working in publishing... im wondering if i could link them#notalllawyers
I'm a lawyer but not a solicitor. Patent attorney. Love it but you need a science degree. The hours aren't long but the professional exams are difficult. Another option is trade mark attorney (for which you don't need a science degree).
Becoming a Chartered Trade Mark Attorney
Do you have a degree, what's it in, and what grade did you get?
english, 2:1... then many years experience working in publishing... im wondering if i could link them
It was about what I expected!Commercial experience is always useful. Degree ticks the box. Are you ready for 5 years of exams?
Does it have an in house legal team?It was about what I expected!
i reckon first move might be to see if the place i work for has any kind of scheme...

yehDoes it have an in house legal team?
hm i reckon I'm pretty sure I don't want to be a "lawyer" as such, from this thread....Isn't it virtually impossible for late career changers to get articles or whatever it's called these days?
Anecdotally all I can say is many years a go i went to the wedding of a mate and was stuck on a table full of lawyers and their partners. They were all probably earning shed loads and I know one of them now is a QC. But they all seemed pretty miserable. The QC did have a nice house in Clapham though, last time I saw him.
But don't let any of that put you off..![]()
Neither of the people I know who decided they wanted to change career into law managed to get a training contract afterwards. Hundreds of applications for each position are not good odds.
An old colleague had to pay a firm (not officially obviously) to take his wife on on a training contract!


