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'Responsible Reform' amazing document by disabled people, please circulate/

Discussion in 'UK politics, current affairs and news' started by treelover, Jan 9, 2012.

  1. frogwoman

    frogwoman Whatever's meant to go here.

    ah so lib-dem twats then ...
  2. Frankie Jack

    Frankie Jack Not a bloke..

    Wish I lived closer. I'd be a one woman demo there on that day. Would take me till March to walk the 300+ miles on my doddery legs though.

    Megabus and a sofa for the night might be in order.. Anyone join me..? and provide said sofa of course.. ;)
  3. treelover

    treelover Well-Known Member

    I just reposted this elsewhere

    then again, it needs exposing
  4. treelover

    treelover Well-Known Member

    It was originally headed by Philip Blond
  5. Frankie Jack

    Frankie Jack Not a bloke..

    Oh fuck Paulie.. I am a fucking twat... Last year.. :facepalm:
  6. stethoscope

    stethoscope given up

    Even so, it shows where these things are either going or already are - neo-liberal think tanks along with politicians (whether Tory, Lib Dem, Labour) all entertaining private organisations as the 'answer'.
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  7. treelover

    treelover Well-Known Member


    'Work sets you free', Duncan Smith claims, well this is what happened to Sue Marsh after working hard to get the R/R out on time, many more disabled and sick people will end up like this when forced on workfare at Tescos, etc(btw people on workfare, worked late on Xmas eve, full timers went home) lets hope they sue?

  8. treelover

    treelover Well-Known Member

    'I'm "in the best place" - antibiotics and saline drips and painkillers are oozing into my blood. Everyone is very kind. The nurse who admitted me knew who I was and actually grabbed my wrist to check my name - "Are you Sue Marsh??? You??"
    I have no idea if we will be able to do what we did again. We knew it was unsafe. At some point, we need the more able to take some of the load. We need them to see what is being done in their name. We need them to act. Because we can only act for so long. '

    any one here of the 'able bodied' want to step up to the plate?
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  9. Frankie Jack

    Frankie Jack Not a bloke..

    At the plate and in natters to see what's next..:)

    *Not that I'm able bodied...*
  10. treelover

    treelover Well-Known Member

  11. treelover

    treelover Well-Known Member

    '20, 2012 12:37 PM
    In answer to Anon above:​

    It was Ian Duncan Smith who told the BBC 6pm News and website that people are "not suffering" as a result of his welfare reforms.He was asked about the upcoming Lords fight over benefit caps."Asked if the cap was really a distraction from the changes to disability benefits, ESA and housing benefits, from which people were suffering, he said: "But they're not suffering. The point about this is that what makes you suffer is the state that plunges you into dependency." This is the man who dropped everything and took over 6 months off work to be at home with his wife Betsy when she got breast cancer (and got emormous sympathy) while she went through "gruelling" treatment. This is the man who now wants to make other people with cancer go to work, nevermind their husbands. While his leader, Cameron, claimed DLA for his son(and got enormous sympathy) They now want to abolish it for other children and adults.​

    'Funny isn't it, how the public had sympathy for these millionaires, still getting paid their salaries from the public purse while they took time off or received state benefits.​
    I guess grief and disease must be so much worse for the wealthy, or somehting. They got sympathy from the public. We get hatred.'​

    From the Diary. something is very very wrong and Duncan Smith is either evil or mad

    or both...
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  13. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Hardly getting over it.

    Was painful to watch (saw it when it was broadcast). It was so obvious that neither Neil, Smith or Portillo actually had any grasp on the points Ms. Martinez was making.
  14. treelover

    treelover Well-Known Member

    Apparently Lord Newton(Tony Newton, ex Thatcherite Minister) was 'irritated' by the volume of emails he recieved on the matter, so much for democracy!

    Apparently, Sue and Bendy Girl will be attending the TUC Seminar on 'Disability and Employment' but also that Paul Gregg will be speaking: he is the academic responsible for designing the Employment Support Allowance and the sanctions regime with it, why have the TUC invited him?, its not just the problems with ATOS, the whole ESA regime is brutal and not fit for purpose.
  15. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Hardly getting over it.

    The TUC have invited him because essentially they're a branch of new Labour opinion, and operate on the assumption that if NL thought that the ESA was okay, it must be.
  16. StraightOuttaQ

    StraightOuttaQ Banned Banned

    He's neither evil nor mad. I consider it worse. On basis of his claim that "no one is suffering", I'd disagree with him in the strongest possible terms ; But there again, it seems to be, if he hasn't seen anyone suffering, therefore no one IS suffering. That conservative double think allows him to consider those who do complain of malingering, unwilling to work scroungers and thus discredit their claims to suffering on a mental level.

    The ability to turn a blind eye to someone else's suffering without caring is not evil, but a lack of emotion or caring. In the meantime, he trots out facts and figures that just reduce people to numbers, to money, so he can say "person X costs the state Y thousand a year - its not fair, I support myself, why can't they?", convieniently ignoring the disabilites and medical conditions.

    its the old Norman Tebbit, get on yer bike, there's work for everyone you are just not looking, therefore it's your fault, mentality.

    Someone with so little empathy or caring for those worse off than themselves, to me, fits the definition of a clinical sociopath. But, as Madeline Albright said about the 500,000 Iraqis killed by sanctions up to 1999 - "I consider it a price worth paying". I suppose IDS might also say the same.
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  17. taffboy gwyrdd

    taffboy gwyrdd Embrace the confusion!

    Not exactly on topic but seems an appropriate enough to post this I just got on Faceache:
    Please pass on this message: Warning to friends who claim sickness and disability benefits: Do not add Damian Simpson as a friend. He's a council assessor and DWP informant and has been exposed as a spy on one of the campaign pages. Please check if it's this man and block. UK


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