Respect Party - whats wrong with it?

[nightbreed]

http://macuaid.blogspot.com/2006/11/gold-turned-to-lead-leaving-respect.html

It looks like the members of Socialist Resistance / ISG are now voting with their feet.

I noticed someone from john4leader quickly replied on the blog spot!!

 

[Nigel Irritable]

I noticed someone from john4leader quickly replied on the blog spot!!

An ex-ISG/IMG member who posts around the left blogs and is still rather forlornly in New Labour put that up. The ISG are so politically lost that it wouldn't be a massive surprise to see them drift back into New Labour, but on balance I think not at least for the moment.

 

[nwnm]

Exactly, you shouldn't post up names of people on the internet after all.

nwmn: ill have a look for that quote when i have more time. im pretty sure it was in the WW a couple of years ago...

Ooh it must be true then they never make anything up, 'invent' non existant power struggles, in other groups, which don't exist, or attribute arguments to people that they have never come out with

 

[mk12]

Here's where I read it (not GG):

http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=91909&highlight=german+fayed

SWP always tell the truth don't they nwmn? How many were on the last demo?

 

[nwnm]

Here's where I read it (not GG):

http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=91909&highlight=german+fayed

SWP always tell the truth don't they nwmn? How many were on the last demo?

and on that thread even the anarcho posters reckon workers power made it up. Your quotes get more dubious every time This is getting funnier than the 'why the socialist party isn't socialist' thread

 

[mk12]

"Your quotes get more dubious every time"

One quote i've put up that has a dodgy source? Why are you silent about Naseem? And how many were on the last demo nwmn?

 

[treelover]

I bet respect/swp won't be signing up to this, it a call for a new approach to race and faith matters , including an end to communalism, relying on self selected gatekeepers and an acknowledgement that the white working class has suffered though globalisation , etc

Race and faith: a new agenda

The debate around these sensitive subjects has hit a new low. We need a fresh approach.


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November 20, 2006 07:23 AM | Printable version

Thirty years since the passing of the Race Relations Act, Britain faces a crisis of discourse around race and faith. These have always been sensitive topics, but the debate has hit new lows of simplicity and hysteria in the past few years. People want to talk. They need to talk. But how do they engage in a discussion which has been manipulated by recent governments to demonise minority groups, while being increasingly hijacked by self-appointed "community leaders"?

We, the signatories to this manifesto, today call for a new approach to tackle discrimination and prejudice and forge a fresh approach to building a modern Britain. We are optimistic that people of different backgrounds and faiths can live together in our society. Thus we want to ensure that the national conversation is not dominated by our fears or polarised voices.

We need an approach that discards the older politics of representation through government sanctioned gate-keepers. One that rejects prejudice from both majority and minority communities, especially religious intolerance, and finds a common cause in equality and social justice with all Britons.

http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk...k/2006/11/why_we_need_a_new_discourse_on.html

 

[cockneyrebel]

Whatever my opinion of Workers Power now (not that great), that quote wasn't made up......

 

[mk12]

it was. You are "hostile" to the SWP.

 

[audiotech]

Powerful speech here from former UK Ambassador to Uzbekhistan Craig Murray.

 

[cockneyrebel]

mk12 are you threatening me

 

[mk12]

mk12 are you threatening me

there is no place for violence in the workers movement.

 

[nwnm]

oh well - thats workers defence squads out of the window then. Now what'll workers power demand next time there's a mutinee about the quality of food in our kitchens

 

[cockneyrebel]

oh well - thats workers defence squads out of the window then. Now what'll workers power demand next time there's a mutinee about the quality of food in our kitchens

Talking of humourless trots......that one went straight over his head

 

[mk12]

oh well - thats workers defence squads out of the window then. Now what'll workers power demand next time there's a mutinee about the quality of food in our kitchens

form a soviet of course.

 

[nwnm]

form a soviet of course.

only after the pubs close

 

[ska invita]

a call for a new approach to race and faith matters ...and an acknowledgement that the white working class has suffered though globalisation

as an aside, why do "white" working class people need to be acknowledged more than any other memebrs of the working class? Isn't this racist?

...sounds like a new approach to race and faith matters is called for!

 

[ska invita]

Originally Posted by Nigel Irritable
http://macuaid.blogspot.com/2006/11/...g-respect.html

It looks like the members of Socialist Resistance / ISG are now voting with their feet.

[from the link]:

Even at this stage in the organisation’s life it is not clear if it is a party or a coalition.

What is the coalition bit about? It is officialy the Respect coalition - just who makes up this coalition exactly?

 

[.r.u.i.n.e.d]

Reading this from treelover made me think of a whole new line in explanations of why schools are crap, and have got worse and worse, despite the "best efforts" of every government.

"I bet respect/swp won't be signing up to this, it a call for a new approach to race and faith matters , including an end to communalism, relying on self selected gatekeepers and an acknowledgement that the white working class has suffered though globalisation , etc"

Race and faith: a new agenda

The debate around these sensitive subjects has hit a new low. We need a fresh approach.


N
Thirty years since the passing of the Race Relations Act, Britain faces a crisis of discourse around race and faith. These have always been sensitive topics, but the debate has hit new lows of simplicity and hysteria in the past few years. People want to talk. They need to talk. But how do they engage in a discussion which has been manipulated by recent governments to demonise minority groups, while being increasingly hijacked by self-appointed "community leaders"?

We, the signatories to this manifesto, today call for a new approach to tackle discrimination and prejudice and forge a fresh approach to building a modern Britain. We are optimistic that people of different backgrounds and faiths can live together in our society. Thus we want to ensure that the national conversation is not dominated by our fears or polarised voices.

We need an approach that discards the older politics of representation through government sanctioned gate-keepers. One that rejects prejudice from both majority and minority communities, especially religious intolerance, and finds a common cause in equality and social justice with all Britons.

http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/...course_on.html