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Republican Majority Leader of Congress up on Criminal Charges

ViolentPanda said:
Do you know how pathetic the above attempt at personalising a comment about the credibility of a commentator into a smear implying racism and sexism makes you look?

I suspect not.
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And do you know how clueless and cruel it is to suggest she's a facist? :rolleyes:
 
nino_savatte said:
No, all your heroes are crooks: Reagan, Dubya, Cheney.....
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:rolleyes:

More commie propganda.

Reagan never took a dime, he just circled around the law a bit to kill commies.

John wayne would have done the same. :p
 
rocketman said:
PB...



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Bye.
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No more no more no more no more,
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[ repeat ]

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You're the meanest old woman that I've ever seen,
Well I guess if you say so
I'll have to pack my things and go (that's right)
[ repeat ]

What'd you say
[ repeat ]

Now baby, listen baby, don't you treat me this-a way
'Cause I'll be back on my feet some day,
Don't care if you do, cause it's understood,
You ain't got no money, you just ain't no good
Well I guess if you say so
I'll have to pack my things and go

That's right
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pbman said:
And do you know how clueless and cruel it is to suggest she's a facist? :rolleyes:
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He didn't suggest she was a facist[sic], he suggested she was a crypto-fascist. If you don't know the distinction I suggest you look it up.
As for it being a cruel suggestion, why? Because she is a "southeast-Asian American"? That hardly disqualifies her from possibly being a fascist, chickenhawk. There are corporatist ultra-rightists of every colour, religion and "race".
 
pbman said:
[ Hit the Road Jack and don'tcha come back
No more no more no more no more,
Hit the Road Jack and don'tcha come back no more ]

What'd you say
[ repeat ]

Old woman old woman, oh you treat me so mean,
You're the meanest old woman that I've ever seen,
Well I guess if you say so
I'll have to pack my things and go (that's right)
[ repeat ]

What'd you say
[ repeat ]

Now baby, listen baby, don't you treat me this-a way
'Cause I'll be back on my feet some day,
Don't care if you do, cause it's understood,
You ain't got no money, you just ain't no good
Well I guess if you say so
I'll have to pack my things and go

That's right
[ repeat ]

What'd you say
[ repeat ]

Well ... don'tcha come back no more
Uh, whud jou say? - don'tcha come back no more
I didn't understand you. - don'tcha come back no more
You can't mean that - don'tcha come back no more
Aw now Baby, please. - don'tcha come back no more
What you tryin to do to me!? - don'tcha come back no more
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Shit-for-brains yet again proves that any post of his that contains more that 3 sentences is invariably a cut and paste.
 
pbman said:
Her family was locked up in a "concentration camp" or internmetn camp, and you have the nerve to call her a fascist? :rolleyes:
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Read the post, chickenhawk; I called her a "crypto-fascist"...not that it makes much difference, since the shite she spouts is little different to the stuff printed in Der Sturmer. Furthermore, your defence of Malkin is based primarily on your wank fantasies of her...she is the same as Coulter but marginally more attractive.

So what sort of camp was her family locked up in? Concentration or internment...pick one. By calling the interment camps in the US concentration camps you are actually admitting for the first time the nature of the camps. A Freudian slip perhaps...or just plain stupidity...like your post.
 
pbman said:
:rolleyes:

More commie propganda.

Reagan never took a dime, he just circled around the law a bit to kill commies.

John wayne would have done the same. :p
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"Commie propaganda"? More silly and sad name-calling...but I am aware this is what passes for debate with the American right; and while you accuse the other side of the same thing, you are all incapable of identifying the same trait in yourselves.

Reagan lied to the public and he was half-dead in his second term of office.

Here's some additions to the list of crooks to hold the office of president:

Harding
Pierce (great-great-great grandfather of Barbara Bush)
McKinley

I noticed you didn't deny the criminality of the other names. Any reason for this?
 
Desperately trying to drag things back to topic again...

Link here

Grand jury re-indicts Tom DeLay on new money laundering charge
October 03, 2005 11:39 PM EDT
AUSTIN, Texas - A Texas grand jury re-indicted Rep. Tom DeLay on charges of conspiring to launder money and money laundering after the former House majority leader attacked last week's indictment on technical grounds.

The new indictment, handed up by a grand jury seated Monday, contained two counts. The money laundering charge carries a penalty of up to life in prison. The charge of conspiracy to launder money is punishable by up to 20 years in prison.

Last week, DeLay was charged with conspiracy to violate campaign-finance laws, forcing him to leave his leadership position.

Defense lawyers asked a judge Monday to throw out the first indictment, arguing that the charge of conspiring to violate campaign finance laws was based on a statute that did not take effect until 2003 - a year after the alleged acts.

The new indictment from District Attorney Ronnie Earle, coming just hours after the new grand jurors were sworn in, outraged DeLay.

"Ronnie Earle has stooped to a new low with his brand of prosecutorial abuse," DeLay said in a statement. "He is trying to pull the legal equivalent of a 'do-over' since he knows very well that the charges he brought against me last week are totally manufactured and illegitimate. This is an abomination of justice."

Earle's office did not return repeated phone calls from The Associated Press.

In a written statement, the office outlined the new charges and possible punishments, but did not address criticism from DeLay's attorneys.

Delay, 58, is the highest-ranking member of Congress to face criminal prosecution. House Republican rules forced him to temporarily step aside as majority leader while he fights the charges.

DeLay and two political associates are accused of conspiring to get around a state ban on corporate campaign contributions by funneling the money through the DeLay-founded Texans for a Republican Majority Political Action Committee to the Republican National Committee in Washington. The RNC then sent back like amounts to distribute to Texas candidates in 2002, the indictment alleges.

DeLay attorney Dick DeGuerin said the money spent on Texas candidates was "lawfully collected from individuals who knew what they were contributing to."

The indictment alleges that DeLay knowingly aided the transfer of the corporate money to help the Republicans win a majority in the Texas Legislature.

Once the Republicans had secured control of the Legislature, state lawmakers adopted a DeLay-engineered congressional redistricting plan that gave the Republicans a stronger grasp on the U.S. House of Representatives as well.

Bruce Buchanan, a University of Texas political science professor, said details of the indictments were still emerging, but the new charge offers an opening for DeLay's defense team. He said prosecutors may be trying to correct weaknesses in the first indictment and build a more credible case.

The new indictment "gives the defendant an opportunity to discredit it and to influence the political interpretation of it," Buchanan said. "It's an opportunity to claim these guys don't have a case, and it allows the defense to allege that it's purely political."

It was unclear when Delay would appear in court to face the new charges. No arraignment date had been set.

DeLay's associates, John Colyandro of Austin and Jim Ellis of Washington, were each previously indicted on charges of conspiracy to violate campaign finance laws and money laundering.

The judge who will preside in DeLay's case is out of the country on vacation and could not rule on the defense motion. Other state district judges declined to rule on the motion in his place.

Two other members of Congress have been indicted since 1996.

Former Rep. William Janklow, a South Dakota Republican, was convicted of vehicular homicide and sentenced to 100 days in prison after his car struck and killed a motorcyclist in 2003. Former Rep. James Traficant, an Ohio Democrat, was sentenced to eight years in prison after being convicted on charges from a 2001 indictment accusing him of racketeering and accepting bribes.
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Delay's on a ship that's sinking fast. Thank God. :)
My faith in the system is being renewed. Now let's hope we can knock out George Wanker.
 
quamp1 said:
Link here



Delay's on a ship that's sinking fast. Thank God. :)
My faith in the system is being renewed. Now let's hope we can knock out George Wanker.
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That's great but you need a root and branch overhaul of the political system...and more limits on the powers of the president wouldn't go amiss either.
 
AS i said, their are seriouse problems with the charges on this one.

He had to "shop it" to three grand juries. :eek:

http://www.statesman.com/metrostate/content/metro/stories/10/5earle.html

Travis County grand jury last week refused to indict former U.S. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay as prosecutors raced to salvage their felony case against the Sugar Land Republican.

In a written statement Tuesday, Travis County District Attorney Ronnie Earle acknowledged that prosecutors presented their case to three grand juries — not just the two they had discussed — and one grand jury refused to indict DeLay. .........................

"It just gets worse and worse," DeGuerin said. "He's gone to three grand juries over four days. Where does it stop?"
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nino_savatte said:
De Lay is going to crash and burn...get used to it, there are more to come.
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lol

MOre detail on earle's jury shoping.

Other jury declined to indict DeLay
Texas prosecutor described as angry
By Larry Margasak and Suzanne Gamboa, Associated Press | October 6, 2005

WASHINGTON -- A Texas prosecutor tried to convince a grand jury that Representative Tom DeLay gave tacit approval to a series of laundered campaign contributions, and when jurors declined to indict, he became angry, according to two people directly familiar with the proceeding.

The grand jury was one of three that considered whether there was probable cause to indict DeLay. Two other grand juries did indict the former House majority leader, who had to step aside temporarily under Republican rules.

Both indictments focused on an alleged scheme to provide corporate political donations to Texas legislative candidates in violation of state law.

The two people interviewed, who commented anonymously because of grand jury secrecy, said Travis County prosecutor Ronnie Earle became visibly angry when the grand jurors last week signed a document declining to indict, known as a ''no bill."

One person said the sole evidence Earle presented was a DeLay interview with the prosecutor, in which DeLay said he was generally aware of activities of his associates. He is charged in an alleged money- laundering scheme to funnel corporate donations to Texas legislative candidates in violation of state law.
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http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2005/10/06/other_jury_declined_to_indict_delay?mode=PF
 
pbman said:
Thats not spicific.

Their is no dirct evidnece listed in the indictment, to delay.

If your ass was up on such a vauge thing, i suspect you wouldn't like it one bit.........
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oh ffs! BA's caught you out in a barefaced lie! stop wriggling, you're making a prize fool of yerself
 
spring-peeper said:
You are aware that you are responding to a post that is two months old, don't you?

:rolleyes:
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Wow, you know, he'd never have known that if you hadn't told him, 'cos it isn't like there's a dating system on the posts, is there, ya blatant halfwit?
 
ViolentPanda said:
Wow, you know, he'd never have known that if you hadn't told him, 'cos it isn't like there's a dating system on the posts, is there, ya blatant halfwit?
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Usually, when a thread is bumped, it is because of new or current information.

I look into to find out what new comments were added, and look!!!

No posts or comments on the link - but a na-na-your-momma-smells comment on a post two months old to a poster who rarely posts here anymore.

I just think that it was so sad, it was laughable.

Sorry if you do not share my sense of humour.
 
spring-peeper said:
Usually, when a thread is bumped, it is because of new or current information.

I look into to find out what new comments were added, and look!!!
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Yeah, let's look shall we?

One from JC2, with a halfway decent link.
One from you (which you subsequently deleted).
One from nino.
No posts or comments on the link - but a na-na-your-momma-smells comment on a post two months old to a poster who rarely posts here anymore.
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Of course, you're too self-righteous to take into account that sometimes threads get lost and so points or even insults can't be replied to until the thread emerges again.
As for pbman, there's a reason he doesn't post here anymore. It's because he spewed out a load of racist bullshit and got called on it. Instead of arguing his corner he ran away.
I just think that it was so sad, it was laughable.
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You're entitled to think what you like.
Sorry if you do not share my sense of humour.
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You have a sense of humour?
 
My momma taught me to never wrestle with a pig because you will both get dirty and the pig will enjoy it.

My papa taught me to poke the bear.

My responses to you have been in equal proportions.
 
spring-peeper said:
My momma taught me to never wrestle with a pig because you will both get dirty and the pig will enjoy it.

My papa taught me to poke the bear.

My responses to you have been in equal proportions.
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Oooh, a homily, how entertaining!

Do you do all your thinking in fluent cliché, or just the stuff you "bless" this board with?
 
ViolentPanda said:
Oooh, a homily, how entertaining!

Do you do all your thinking in fluent cliché, or just the stuff you "bless" this board with?
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That pig one is a great cliche. I'm going to borrow it, no doubt.
 
spring-peeper said:
My momma taught me to never wrestle with a pig because you will both get dirty and the pig will enjoy it.

My papa taught me to poke the bear.

My responses to you have been in equal proportions.
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Is this a poem? :confused:
 
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