reheating food

[irishshapes]

i'm aware that i shouldn't reheat rice from a take out
and egg fried rice etc BUT

i made a carbonara lst night for my tea and there was loads so i divided it up on two plates one for tonight
then this morning i remembered the rules etc re: eggs
i made it with eggs and sour cream and it was lovely can i eat it again tonight, or MUST i bin it?

thanks in advance

p.s. it's my last day tomorrow in this job i dont want to be ill for it, thanks

 

[aqua]

I'd eat it, if thats any consolation

but then I eat left over rice too

ooo hang on though, has it been in the fridge?

 

[purves grundy]

Reheated rice isn't a problem so long as it's thoroughly hot.

 

[pogofish]

Reheated rice isn't a problem so long as it's thoroughly hot.

Yes it is - heating may kill bacteria but won't touch the equally toxic (if not worse) bacterial byproducts. I've told my story of being hospitalised & having to deal with the long-term physical effects (over a year) of those toxins before.

As for anything like a Carbonara, with a reasonable percentage of egg/dairy, I really would not risk it!

 

[Madusa]

Was going to start a thread, but saw this one:

Can you reheat take-out pizza in the oven? We dont have a microwave cos one of our housemates is neurotic about waves and stuff...

 

[purves grundy]

Yes it is - heating may kill bacteria but won't touch the equally toxic (if not worse) bacterial byproducts. I've told my story of being hospitalised & having to deal with the long-term physical effects (over a year) of those toxins before.

I'll trust you cos I know you're in the sciencey game, but I reheated white rice everyday for three years without probs.

What long-term physical effects did you have? Just so I'll know if I've got them

 

[Strumpet]

I re-heat rice too sometimes...and pizza

 

[bi0boy]

Cooked egg is not going to disease you, otherwise how would people eat egg sandwiches from shops without dying?

 

[Madusa]

I re-heat rice too sometimes...and pizza

Can you heat it in the oven?

 

[Strumpet]

Yeh prob. better to do that than in micro.
Left over pizza....m.mmmmm...m.mm.m.

 

[sojourner]

I'll trust you cos I know you're in the sciencey game, but I reheated white rice everyday for three years without probs.

What long-term physical effects did you have? Just so I'll know if I've got them

I've reheated rice too, loads in the past

But pogo has scared the living fucking daylights out of me on that score now I even advise other people not to do it

 

[subversplat]

I reheat everything. Often I just leave it on the hob with some clingfilm over it for a night and reheat it the next day. I don't eat dairy nowadays but I used to and treated that the same.

The only bout of food poisoning I've ever had was from a Pepperami (not reheated, though...)

 

[Disaster]

i'm aware that i shouldn't reheat rice from a take out
and egg fried rice

What's the harm in that? I always reheat any leftover egg fried rice.

 

[Strumpet]

I always reheat any leftover egg fried rice.

Indeed. YUmmmm. *tummy rumbles*

 

[Orang Utan]

Why on earth would you have left over pizza?

 

[Orang Utan]

I thought rice was OK as long as you don't let it cool down before you stick in the fridge for the next day

 

[sojourner]

It's the reheating that's the problem, not how it was cooled the night before

 

[Orang Utan]

that's not what I've been told on previous threads - tis the other way round

 

[sojourner]

that's not what I've been told on previous threads - tis the other way round

Well that's what I've been told

but then i'm stuffing my face with cadburys caramel and couldn't really give a shite

 

[purves grundy]

I used to turn up at work with it in my little lunchbox, leave it on my desk for a few hours, then bang it in the microwave come luncheon time

 

[pogofish]

I think you would know - quite obvious something was wrong.

First violent stomach cramps, sickness & really bad squits. Then, despite having been put on strong antibiotics (which were no party themselves), it hit my kidneys & urinary system as well. Think pissing molten metal. Then, to top it all, it hit one of my testicles - which promptly swelled-up to the size of a bloody grapefruit! You really don't want to know just how helplessness-inducing & painful that was.

At one point, the medics were seriously considering surgical intervention!

All-in, I was in hospital for @9 weeks.

Then, a few weeks later, it hit me again but without the swollen balls (ETA - Although it took many months for the original swelling to go down, indeed even today, it is still a bit oddly shaped)

And again

And again

And thanks to the secondary toxins in my system, it kept coming back & hitting me for well over a year. Reducing in severity certainly each time as my immune system got to grips eventually but whenever I dared to hope I was getting better, back it would come, like hitting a wall.

The medics advice was simple - "We can do nothing at all. Just treat the symptoms when they happen. Your body can only deal with this itself, in its own time."

So, you may have been lucky all these years but all you need is to get it once to suffer a whole lot of grief.

Equally, if you want my story of a bad salmonella infection in Ireland, 10 years or so earlier, you can have that too but compared to rice, it was an absolute breeze - I was only in hospital for a fortnight & they quickly pulled me back from the beginnings of kidney failure. The farts were something else too!

 

[Detroit City]

yes, you can finish it off.

 

[sojourner]

Hehe

I always forget the bit about the swollen nuts

 

[Orang Utan]

It's funny how you can discount a horrifying testimony from a food poisoning survivor cos you've heard a few more anecdotes from people who haven't had any ill effects

 

[laptop]

It's funny how you can discount a horrifying testimony from a food poisoning survivor cos you've heard a few more anecdotes from people who haven't had any ill effects

Well, it's odds, innit?

Weigh the number of takeaway rice portions being reheated across these islands at this moment and the number of grapefruit-sized nuts resulting tomorrow against being hungry.

I don't think the Office of National Statistics publishes exact figures for the number of people killed or maimed crossing the road to the takeaway at 22:28 on a Thursday night - but I'd be guessing that the risk is of the same order of magnitude as getting a dose of Listeria or whatever pogofish suffered.

PS: is someone prepared to collate all the sensible posts from all the instantiations of this thread and make it a sticky? Perhaps someone could do a graph?

 

[sojourner]

Hmm? Is that what you do OU?

 

[Orang Utan]

Hmm? Is that what you do OU?

Yes, when I make risotto, I eat half of it, stick the other half in the fridge, and reheat it the next day.

 

[pogofish]

I'd had more than my share of reheats before Ireland as well but not again, it is simply not worth it!

 

[pogofish]

Weigh the number of takeaway rice portions being reheated across these islands at this moment and the number of grapefruit-sized nuts resulting tomorrow against being hungry.

Funnilly enough, in England - typically:

Campylobactor - from 40 to 50-thousand serious cases a year. Many more mild infections
E-coli 0157 - 600 to 1000 cases PA (other forms of e-coli, which accounts for many types of milder poisoning - many, many more)
Salmonella - Falling & down to @10 thousand cases a year from a peak of over 30K
Norovirus - Around 2000 typically but two major outbreaks in recent years

All-in, the many other types of food poisoning amount for something close to 1.5 million cases per year & that is only those that warrant some form of medical intervention.

 

[laptop]

Funnilly enough, in England - typically:

Campylobactor - from 40 to 50-thousand serious cases a year. Many more mild infections
E-coli 0157 - 600 to 1000 cases PA (other forms of e-coli, which accounts for many types of milder poisoning - many, many more)
Salmonella - Falling & down to @10 thousand cases a year from a peak of over 30K
Norovirus - Around 2000 typically but two major outbreaks in recent years

All-in, the many other types of food poisoning amount for something close to 1.5 million cases per year & that is only those that warrant some form of medical intervention.

OK, large numbers.

Not to quibble, but for interest and precision:

Do we have any breakdown of those by source - instinctively I'd be fingering meat, so to speak.

And by age - how many are in nursing homes / otherwise already ill?