Regional Voices - Platform them here
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SpookyFrank
Don't swallow the cap
Panorama on BBC one now talking to folk in the West Midlands about how they voted and why.
The show opened with a father of six complaining about Polish immgrants causing overpopulation, apparently without irony.
The show opened with a father of six complaining about Polish immgrants causing overpopulation, apparently without irony.
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Thanks for the reminder Frank...I posted about it earlier in the thread and then forgot.
SpookyFrank
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Adrian Chiles looking like he's about to lamp an overtly racist old bat.
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at the start of the that video the bbc man says something like 'you're one of the biggest beneficiaries of eu money, why did you vote to leave?' and at the end of the video a woman says 'they haven't done anything for us'. that's the answer, isnt it? Where did the eu money really go and who did it really benefit I'd like to know. unsurprisingly the pro eu campaign never really seemed able to make much of a positive case of staying in the eu instead relying on the risks of leaving.
I wish so many of these clips didn't just give you tiny snippets of conversation with people, it's like they deliberately want them to seem ill informed/confused by stopping them randomly and getting them to sum it all up in about a sentence. i'd be a gibbering wreck
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Wigan’s Road to ‘Brexit’: Anger, Loss and Class Resentments
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/06/w...working-class-voters.html?mwrsm=Facebook&_r=1
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/06/w...working-class-voters.html?mwrsm=Facebook&_r=1
ffsear
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DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
mixed feelings on that article. It doesn't interrogate why 60% identify as workin class when asked by pollsters. Some good bits but was turned off by a 'class doesn't exist but is a brit obsession' vibe I got
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sky doc about my town. there was also one about us the night before on another channel but i can't find it as I'm rubbish at google.
I have several things to say good and bad about this vid but I'm at work
To be clear this thread was never meant for in depth debate. I am happy that people are not arguing the toss and letting the voices, whether we like them or not, speak for themselves. I think that is important.
As an aside ....My Great Gran and my Nan are from Sunderland... My mother was born in London because my Nan had had enough during the 2nd world war, came to London and ended up in a relationship with her lodger (her husband was at serving/away)...my matriarchal grandfather was a Canadian Mountie. My mum and her twin were born in 45, at the end of the war...Grandad Saracen, fucked off after my Nan refused his kind
offer of taking them with him but without her other children (borne of her husband who went off to war and never, ever came back ) Needless to say she said no. So I have Mackem blood, never been to Sunderland though.
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HoratioCuthbert
Deep seated inconsequence
"A survey of social attitudes released last week by NatCen Social Research, a British research group, found that while only 25 percent of Britons had jobs that involved routine or manual labor, the traditional markers of working-class membership, 60 percent of British people viewed themselves as working class."
And it then goes on to explain those not in the 25 per cent do not experience job or financial insecurity but that's standard with american liberal stuff. Scary lack of class based analysis, usually described as 'poorly educated' or 'bad life choices' etc etc
HoratioCuthbert
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krink
I'll do it this afternoon
Rutita1 It never ceases to amaze me no matter where in the world I have gone I always find a makem! Sunderland is a pretty boring place, not much happens at all which is strange for somewhere so big. It really does have some beautiful parts to it though, especially the coast. One of the things I took away from the video I posted was how nice parts of our town look.
Haway the Urban makems!!
Haway the Urban makems!!
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
SaskiaJayne
Rural Guerrilla
Visited a Norfolk coastal town this week where time must stand still. 'Vote Leave' posters still on display. They did & we are.
Raheem
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Visited a Norfolk coastal town this week where time must stand still. 'Vote Leave' posters still on display. They did & we are.
They're leaving them up for the next referendum. Cheapskates.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
look after the pennies and the pounds will look after themselves.
Raheem
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ItWillNeverWork
Messy Crimbobs, fellow humans.
(Sorry I don't know how to make it smaller)
Looks like a good boost for exporters. Why do you hate producers so much? Why?
gosub
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Agreed,if we stay in the Single Market thats useful. £/$ more complicated and significant - would have been a better stick.
ItWillNeverWork
Messy Crimbobs, fellow humans.
Even if we don't end up staying in the single market, the drop in the value of the pound against the euro is greater than the increase in the tariffs would be. So it still means our goods are cheaper to buy for people abroad.
That's not saying the pound won't go back up in value in the future of course. Actually, I reckon it probably will once the money markets figure out that the Apocalypse isn't happening. But these things are swings and roundabouts. Main point is we aren't all dead yet as some predicted.
gosub
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Though little has actually happened yet. Also can't understand the logic of switching into EUros in this situation, its not my job, but amazed no added risk shown up in the $/€ rate.
Raheem
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What "some" are you talking about? We're into the process of becoming a weaker, less prosperous nation, which is what most economists predicted.
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