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Reggae label to hold "straight pride" publicity stunt
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ddraig
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did you miss this?
or does it take a while for that thick skull to digest stuff.
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kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
It's no more or less meaningless than saying 'I'm proud to be white' tho.
As KRS-1 said:
'I'm black and I'm proud - irrelevant
I'm black and intelligent'
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the opposite of being proud is to be ashamed, so my choice is one of the 2!
i choose pride.
i dont associate MY pride with the BNP pricks etc, i think some of you lot should do the same.
By me saying Im proud of what i am
no matter what i am/was i'd br proud!
even if i was french!
Black or gay pride has a very specific meaning though. It's about saying "I'm a human being, I'm not ashamed of myself and I'm not going to go away".
Why does it have to be a matter of polar opposites though? My keyboard is black with white lettering, I feel neither pride nor shame about that.
Yes, it's all about dressing up as a lady and cramming as much drugs into your body as possible. Once a year.
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because i choose to be happy and embrace who/what i am!
I love the person i have turned out to be.
If i was welsh i'd be proud etc.
I dont see why its a big deal.
Like i have said there is no point in going on a march to celebrate!
but i feel EVERYTHING good in life should be celebrated, including breathing, the lot!
and thats my choice!
Structaural
in Chatsubo
Well as pride is usually in response to low-self-esteem, it isn't ideal in any situation. I'm saying you can understand it when gay and black people say it, they're not saying they're better than you, they're saying I shouldn't feel less because the majority arent' like me or don't like me.
When a white person or straight person tries to 'take off' that same line with 'well I'm proud to be white too' it just sounds risible to me. It sounds like they're saying 'white people are better' which is prides normal definition.
It's not a question of meaning but how it gets construed - proud usually means 'better than the others'.
ddraig
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ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
the opposite of being proud is to be ashamed, so my choice is one of the 2!
i choose pride.
i dont associate MY pride with the BN P pricks etc, i think some of you lot should do the same.
By me saying Im proud of what i am
no matter what i am/was i'd br proud!
even if i was french!
hoho! so it is some misguided superiority that you base your pride on is it?
Structaural
in Chatsubo
the opposite of being proud is to be ashamed, so my choice is one of the 2!
i choose pride.
i dont associate MY pride with the BNP pricks etc, i think some of you lot should do the same.
By me saying Im proud of what i am
no matter what i am/was i'd br proud!
even if i was french!
My problem is that pride in it's normal usage is in response to being ashamed or not anyway. You're right - it's the opposite of ashamed, but it's still low self-esteem in another coat.
Be happy who you are, no need to get prideful about it, and appropriating the slogans of oppressed minorities is pretty low. Saying 'Proud to be white' or 'Proud to be straight', sounds like you're setting yourself up in opposition to them.
ddraig
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well good for you but why has it got anything at all to do with being white or straight???
being a Welsh i can try and answer that by saying that i'm proud to be Welsh despite the engerlish trying to crush us and at least we got some culture
everything good? except the french of course! is Jeremy Clarkson your idol? what jappery!
of course it's your choice, who's saying it ain't?? don't make you less of a cunt tho do it
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
Why am I proud to be white?
Well, the philosophers who wrote during the Enlightenment, who's words actually led directly to the whole notion of equality and helped pave the way for this debate to actually be happening, were white and mostly straight.
Well, the philosophers who wrote during the Enlightenment, who's words actually led directly to the whole notion of equality and helped pave the way for this debate to actually be happening, were white and mostly straight.
Well, that too
Structaural
in Chatsubo
They weren't you though, so why you taking credit?
I'd suggest you think very carefully about the next thing you post. The philosophers of the Enlightenment (who were merely philosophising about something that was happening around them anyway) would like that.
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
Doesn't matter. This is about explaining why I'm proud to be white.
TBH, I'm using it as an explanation why I personally find the idea of 'Pride' based on a single physiological aspect of oneself to be ridiculous and disempowering. I know why it happens, and I understand the reasons for it, but I think it demeans and limits people, and can lead to more stereotyping.
But hey, I'd like to see a world where people are judged on what they do, rather than what they are but y'know.
TBH, I'm using it as an explanation why I personally find the idea of 'Pride' based on a single physiological aspect of oneself to be ridiculous and disempowering. I know why it happens, and I understand the reasons for it, but I think it demeans and limits people, and can lead to more stereotyping.
But hey, I'd like to see a world where people are judged on what they do, rather than what they are but y'know.
Can't believe we're having this debate. Utterly utterly depressing.
I've got size 11 feet. Are my options to
a) go on a Size 11 feet Pride March
b) Be ashamed of them?
Fuck's sake
However,if there was a history of oppression and prejudice based on shoe size, it's a different story
I've got size 11 feet. Are my options to
a) go on a Size 11 feet Pride March
b) Be ashamed of them?
Fuck's sake
However,if there was a history of oppression and prejudice based on shoe size, it's a different story
They are surely just as capable, but there's no equivalent music-wise.
Crispy
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There's a lot of deeply irritating Nazi metal bands that are far more popular than they have any right to be.
Shippou-Sensei
4:1:2.5
don't you oppress my right to be reactionary!
It has, but for a myriad of reasons too complicated to go into here (mainly based on what was perceived by many as the decline of reggae when it went digital).
There's a shitload of homophobia in hip hop as well.
Dhimmi
Half Man Half HobNob
There's no shame in a little pride, but this isn't really about pride. The gay proud are probably the only group who claim pride without it being a thinly disguised form of hate.
There's a big gap between the concept of pride, which is generally acceptable, and the reality. Or with this event, as Mrs Me asks; "Don't people have better things to do with their time?"
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