Refugee/Migrant support callout

Discussion in 'protest, direct action and demos' started by rich!, Feb 7, 2018.

  1. rich!

    rich! stalin tache

    From a friend - later collection points available too...

    Solidarity not Charity is doing a collection for much needed collection for supplies to take to Paris....

    More info about them on their facebook page:
    Solidarity not charity

    Drop off points and times:
    Thursday 8th February 12-3pm 48 Mortlock Close Peckham SE15.
    Thursday 8th February 4-7pm Stoke Newington N16. (PM for exact location)

    **Needs list**
    ---THE MOST PRIORITY ITEMS WILL ALWAYS BE SLEEPING BAGS AND BLANKETS---
    **Sleep and cover**
    -Blankets (Thick and thin)
    -Sleeping bags (Thick and thin)
    -Tents (popups are the best and 1/2/3 man are ideal, but we'll take any and all)
    -Tarpaulins Small/Medium/Large.
    -Backpacks (Medium)

    **Clothing**
    -Mens (s/m) brand new socks and underwear.
    -Mens (s/m) tshirts.
    -Mens (s/m) tops.
    -Mens (s/m) jumpers/hoodies.
    -Mens Trousers/jeans/joggers (s/m sizes 28" to 34")
    -belts
    -Mens Shoes and Boots (sizes 40 to 45, especially 42 and 43)
    -Mens coats/jackets. Preferably good winter quality.
    -Hats.
    -Scarves.
    -*Gloves*.
    -Thermal underwear longjohns/vests

    **Weather protection**
    -Waterproof jackets
    -sheets/rolls of plastic for rain cover.
    -Rain ponchos (by the thousands)
    -Foil/Emergency Blankets. ( by the thousands )

    **Hygiene **
    -Wet wipes
    -small packs of tissues.
    -Small packs of toothpaste and toothbrush.
    -small packs of razor, soap or shampoo and deodorant.
    -Small packs of lip balm, vasoline and moisturiser.
    -Small packs of comb, nail file and nail clipper.
    -tiny led torches- keyring/pocket sized.

    Food packs
    1x small bottle of water
    1x small juice carton
    1x ring pull tin of fish
    2x energy/cerial bars
    2x chocolate bars.
    1 x small pack of nuts

    **Phones**
    - mobile phones, charged and with European adapter plugs.
    -charging leads.
    -power banks.

    **Meds**
    -Cold and flu items
    -dressings
    -iodine
    -plasters of all sizes
    -deep heat.
    -cough syrup
    -burn cream
    -bruise cream
    -anti septic cream
    -Antacid capsules.

    Currently the most essential items are
    -blankets
    -winter jackets small and medium sizes.
     
  2. Nice one. Who is your mate taking them to in Paris? I know some good people doing amazing work out there, poss the same people :)
     
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  3. rich!

    rich! stalin tache

    Solidarity not Charity, apparently - see the FB link!
     
  4. Rutita1

    Rutita1 Scum with no integrity, apparently.

    Already well known for their amazing homeless outreach work here in the UK. :cool:
     
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  5. Miscommunication. I thought you were saying your friends are SNC...
     
  6. rich!

    rich! stalin tache

    My friend is taking the stuff to south London to give to their friend in SNC who will then take it to Paris, as I understand.
    It seems there are two different SNCs, too, just to make life more confusing.
     
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  7. Magnus McGinty

    Magnus McGinty Wh♂️

    I don’t understand the slogan as it clearly is charity.
     
  8. Ralph Llama

    Ralph Llama Fuck the system.

    Solidarity is fighting with whereas charity brings to mind philanthropy and is often condescending -

    the better educated white European handing out biscuits to the poor uneducated black man as an act of pitty

    It ignores the fact that our privilege is on their backs and it is that for which they are currently paying for .It is more often than not co-opted by evil to try and control the counter-culture(Bob Geldof).
    Solidarity suggests a movement to readdress the imbalance.

    The Red Cross is a good example of a charity.
    Medecins Sans Frontieres is a good example of solidarity.
     
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  9. LynnDoyleCooper

    LynnDoyleCooper Well-Known Member

    Explain why you think this is then, since to me both are clearly charities.
     
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  10. Ralph Llama

    Ralph Llama Fuck the system.

    Ok, unclear example as both could be defined as either/both.

    MSF fits the solidarity model because it is less centralised than the Red Cross, more committed (from it`s origins) to solidarity, and it has a higher level of transparency. Recent events should highlight this.
    If you really want to get into it read this:

    https://www.icrc.org/eng/assets/files/review/2013/irrc-888-brauman.pdf -"Médecins Sans Frontières and the ICRC: matters of principle"

    ...at least checking out `The myth of Biafra` on the origins of MSF and the reasons of the split from the Red Cross.

    A clearer example would be:

    No Borders- A solidarity movement.
    Oxfam- A charity.
     
    Last edited: Feb 13, 2018
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  11. Magnus McGinty

    Magnus McGinty Wh♂️

    Charity is giving to those in need - which collecting goods and distributing them is a textbook example of.

    An example of solidarity would be if border guards refused to stop persons fleeing war from crossing the border.
     
  12. Ralph Llama

    Ralph Llama Fuck the system.

    Your failing to understand. And why did you even ask that question in the first place?

    Edit. I see why you asked that question. Why you don`t pay attention is another matter.

    I am talking about the established view of what solidarity is within the context of aid, your perfectly entitled to make up your own language.
     
    Last edited: Feb 13, 2018
  13. Magnus McGinty

    Magnus McGinty Wh♂️

    If the left does it it’s solidarity if a church does it it’s charity.
     
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  14. Ralph Llama

    Ralph Llama Fuck the system.

    Obvious oversimplification.

    Somebody who does not put themselves above the victims of the crisis and acts to readdress the unbalance which caused it- This is solidarity.
    If somebody helps out of pity(putting themselves higher than the victims) without realising the underlying causes of the crisis - This is charity.

    Plenty of church groups work out of solidarity, and plenty of them work because they think God demands it.
     
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  15. rich!

    rich! stalin tache

    As an update, my friend is doing another collection:

    This Thursday 15th Feb, 2pm - 5pm.
    Stoke Newington N16, near the Auld Shillelagh pub, PM for exact location.
     
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