Redstar closing down again then.
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corporate whore
oh, thought you were dead
Honestly, I think you'd be onto a winner, but you'd have to make it more Hackney Road than Spearmint Rhino.
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hiraethified
It was a pub for about 95% of its existence, and it still looks like a pub. And it could be a pub again.
Onket
Je suis [CONTENT REMOVED]
Sadly it wouldn't make me go there any more. Does this make me wrong? It must do. 
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hiraethified
It didn't need fixing, thanks. The Redstar is an old pub that is currently operating as a club.
Kanda
Diving wanker
Really? Did you know The Castle is up for sale @ 210k?
corporate whore
oh, thought you were dead
I do know that - the owners also run pubs in East Dulwich and Herne Hill, and may be looking to concentrate their efforts on those.
Camberwell's not over-burdened with pubs, which probably helps. There's something for everyone, IMO.
Thread's getting a bit 'London,' a bit less 'Music,' innit?
Nixon
peanut butter n.w.o.
I WOULD go out in Camberwell if it was worth it anymore.I used to go to Redstar all the time and I still would if it was still decent..I miss the grotty,techno,free party vibe redstar,which is why i stopped going after the big new year bash a few years back.Unsound did such an awesome job there.Agree with El Jefe,Leadpipe probably put on the best nights in that place lineup/music wise since the reopening..apart from that the new nights were just shitty dubstep and grime crap which you can get for free anywhere in shoreditch/brick lane.
corporate whore
oh, thought you were dead
When Camberwell has the Silver Buckle why would anyone want to go anywhere else?
You're such a wrong'un
I think the only hope for the Redstar as any kind of "entertainment" venue these days would be, as suggested above, a strip joint. Sure it'd have the punters rolling in. A foodie kind of place would need a bit more class than you find on that particular corner of Camberwell green, what with the three or more nutty evangelical churches and Cash Converters as the nearest neighbours. It was built as a music hall and has continued as a venue for most of it's existence, but I'd like to see anyone make it work in that capacity these days. I'd have thought that it's reached the end of it's life as a public building.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Well this venue has been having it hard for years, always looking for a formula that will bring in enough turnover to justify opening up and staffing the place. I have known it as the father Redcap to have strippers to back in about 1982/3, yeah girls at lunchtime and fifty pence in their pint pot. That didn't work and then it went into a Vauxhall Tavern style gay joint for a few years and that didn't work either. I preferred the more recent incarnation with balloons on the bar, munted punters aplenty, over the top sub bass rattling the bus stop, people fucking in the loos, and waking up on the sofa with your cash still in your pocket. 
Kanda
Diving wanker
I know people who do go out in Camberwell. To that Funky Monkey place (which always seems to be rammed) and to the Sun & Doves for instance. Incidentally, the Sun & Doves is kind of a foodie pub in Camberwell.
So I think you could probably make Redstar work. If you look at Herne Hill, there's the Florence and the Prince Regent, which both are doing well (both very big too). And the Herne Hill Half Moon is having a bit of a renaissance as a music venue –*they've got Handsome Family playing there this month for instance.
And that Ivan's Retreat place in Brixton seems to have pulled itself back from the brink, thanks to a simple fliering campaign: there was nobody in it ever until about a month ago, after it posted little leaflets through hundreds of doors, marketing it as having a bit of a "Big Chill Festival" type vibe. Mind you, the decor in Ivan's Retreat is shocking - they really shot themselves in the foot painting it so dark.
So I think you could probably make Redstar work. If you look at Herne Hill, there's the Florence and the Prince Regent, which both are doing well (both very big too). And the Herne Hill Half Moon is having a bit of a renaissance as a music venue –*they've got Handsome Family playing there this month for instance.
And that Ivan's Retreat place in Brixton seems to have pulled itself back from the brink, thanks to a simple fliering campaign: there was nobody in it ever until about a month ago, after it posted little leaflets through hundreds of doors, marketing it as having a bit of a "Big Chill Festival" type vibe. Mind you, the decor in Ivan's Retreat is shocking - they really shot themselves in the foot painting it so dark.
Nixon
peanut butter n.w.o.
Sometimes still go to Corsica studios,but not so much cause the bouncers always think im a drug dealer 
Went to the Unsound reunion at Arch 423 (whatever it's called),but apart from that can't think of the last time i've willingly planned to go to a club night in south.Was contemplating a last weekend down at the Corenet for some techno..but alas..it's easier for me and cheaper to get my fix of music,punk girls and drugs in east luhndan..
Used to go to Funky Munky off my nuts on pills,weekend after weekend after redstar shut down the first time,with my mates..Oh the days of being 15 and INNOCENT
Went to the Unsound reunion at Arch 423 (whatever it's called),but apart from that can't think of the last time i've willingly planned to go to a club night in south.Was contemplating a last weekend down at the Corenet for some techno..but alas..it's easier for me and cheaper to get my fix of music,punk girls and drugs in east luhndan..
Used to go to Funky Munky off my nuts on pills,weekend after weekend after redstar shut down the first time,with my mates..Oh the days of being 15 and INNOCENT
Nixon
peanut butter n.w.o.
I got carried out of the Coronet the last time I went to Family Groove.
It's the elephant and castle VIP treatment
Were you carried out because they hated you or were you just trashed?
What's the Junction doing these days? The Redstar used to pack 'em in too. Especially when it was the only place in Camberwell with a late(2am) license. The Redstar was finished really when the other pubs got 2am or 4am licenses and people didn't need to cross the Green to a cold, rundown essentially characterless space like the Redstar. It's very easy to get one or maybe two good nights a week going in the place(especially when entry is free), but to have a sustainable business requires a steady trade every night of the week, which is difficult in a place like the Redstar, which can only be a destination pub. There is very little on foot passing trade, and as I said above it's never operated as just a pub, but has always, since it's inception, been a venue.
If it was such a good prospect, it wouldn't have been up for sale three or four times in the past ten years and "good promoters" would be falling over themselves to get hold of a central London five hundred+ capacity venue.
I live within embarassingly easy distance, but I've not been (except once, the most recent NYE ) since it was Unsound ...
OK so I'm lazier about going out these days, and I've been away a lot of weekends, but there's been very litle going on down there of late that attracts.
Tis a shame, sus seems to have the reasons why the Redstar won't work pretty much errr sussed though ...
By the way why anyone thinks the Funky Munky is any good bewilders me. Shit beer, shit atmosphere. As a pub, give me the Hermits any time.
) since it was Unsound ...OK so I'm lazier about going out these days, and I've been away a lot of weekends, but there's been very litle going on down there of late that attracts.
Tis a shame, sus seems to have the reasons why the Redstar won't work pretty much errr sussed
though ...By the way why anyone thinks the Funky Munky is any good bewilders me. Shit beer, shit atmosphere. As a pub, give me the Hermits any time.
central-ish, ya lame not-coming-to-sheffield pedant
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