saw them a few times and thought they were ok .. inc. at county hall when they got attacked and at a 'marxism' which was frankly embarressing ( the patronising crowd! ) .. the one that always stuck in my mind was their version of '16 tons' .. shame about chris dean .. i suspect they got pissed off by the SWP .. we all did!
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saw them a few times and thought they were ok .. inc. at county hall when they got attacked and at a 'marxism' which was frankly embarressing ( the patronising crowd! ) .. the one that always stuck in my mind was their version of '16 tons' .. shame about chris dean .. i suspect they got pissed off by the SWP .. we all did!
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it was was said at the timehttp://www.geocities.com/neither_washington_nor_moscow/about.html
http://www.geocities.com/neither_washington_nor_moscow/martin2003.html
8 - Are you still an active SWP member?
martin hewes 2003 "I have not been a SWP member for a number of years now. I still call myself a socialist but have lost contact with the party. In some respects this was a conscious decision because I got quite disillusioned with certain people in the organisation. However, this is a personal experience and I would always suggest to anyone who is serious about socialist politics to join the SWP because in reality there is no credible alternative."
so for and against!
btw saounds a bit sad as no contact for many years with chris dean
and there is a tribute album
http://www.redstar-recordings.com/
http://www.geocities.com/neither_washington_nor_moscow/martin2003.html
8 - Are you still an active SWP member?
martin hewes 2003 "I have not been a SWP member for a number of years now. I still call myself a socialist but have lost contact with the party. In some respects this was a conscious decision because I got quite disillusioned with certain people in the organisation. However, this is a personal experience and I would always suggest to anyone who is serious about socialist politics to join the SWP because in reality there is no credible alternative."
so for and against!
btw saounds a bit sad as no contact for many years with chris dean
and there is a tribute album
http://www.redstar-recordings.com/
Fozzie Bear
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This was a good read from a few weeks back, with some good quotes from people involved:
thequietus.com
Surprised that a lot of my younger mates really don't like them, maybe you had to be there...
Reissue Of The Week: Redskins' Neither Washington Nor Moscow | The Quietus
What did the Left of 80s pop want? To persuade, or to overthrow? For Redskins, the soulpunk firebrands whose only album Neither Washington Nor Moscow… has just received a long-overdue reissue as a 4CD box and heavyweight vinyl LP, the answer was clear and direct, and we’ll come to that. The...
thequietus.com
Surprised that a lot of my younger mates really don't like them, maybe you had to be there...
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Good piece. Four discs though, that’s a lot of keepin’ onThis was a good read from a few weeks back, with some good quotes from people involved:
Reissue Of The Week: Redskins' Neither Washington Nor Moscow | The Quietus
What did the Left of 80s pop want? To persuade, or to overthrow? For Redskins, the soulpunk firebrands whose only album Neither Washington Nor Moscow… has just received a long-overdue reissue as a 4CD box and heavyweight vinyl LP, the answer was clear and direct, and we’ll come to that. The...
Surprised that a lot of my younger mates really don't like them, maybe you had to be there...
Fozzie Bear
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Yeah I don't need 4 discs of it... quite happy to read that piece and chuck my old trusty LP on.
josef1878 2.0
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Brilliant live act, never quite transferred it to that vinyl thing although the Lean on me single is excellent
Fozzie Bear
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Mark Sinker just posted X Moore’s two part piece on the miners strike from the NME:
The39thStep
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They had a big following on tour and not just the expected student lefties. There was a group of 15 or so casuals from Ruislip or somewhere who used to turn up to a lot of their gigs in London.This was a good read from a few weeks back, with some good quotes from people involved:
Reissue Of The Week: Redskins' Neither Washington Nor Moscow | The Quietus
What did the Left of 80s pop want? To persuade, or to overthrow? For Redskins, the soulpunk firebrands whose only album Neither Washington Nor Moscow… has just received a long-overdue reissue as a 4CD box and heavyweight vinyl LP, the answer was clear and direct, and we’ll come to that. The...
Surprised that a lot of my younger mates really don't like them, maybe you had to be there...
Far better live than on record, there are a few live radio broadcasts around in which they also sound a lot better than the album. They had problems completing and mixing the album mainly due to their gigging schedule around the miners strike . Eventually, a mate of mine helped them bring in the same producer as the Untouchables. I used to know Chris and Martin ( lived next door to Chris for a while) and heard better versions than the tinny bright sound that the album turned up with.
I've got some photos of Chris somewhere or my son's mother has . I'll try and find them.
Fozzie Bear
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This by a friend is good on the relationship of the group with the SWP.
history-is-made-at-night.blogspot.com
it seems to include a letter from Chuck Wilson formerly of this parish.
And my mate’s account of the bonehead attack on the GLC gig too which I didn’t know he was at.
The Redskins - revolutionary rock'n'roll?
history-is-made-at-night.blogspot.com
it seems to include a letter from Chuck Wilson formerly of this parish.
And my mate’s account of the bonehead attack on the GLC gig too which I didn’t know he was at.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
I got arrested at that GLC attack .This by a friend is good on the relationship of the group with the SWP.
The Redskins - revolutionary rock'n'roll?
it seems to include a letter from Chuck Wilson formerly of this parish.
And my mate’s account of the bonehead attack on the GLC gig too which I didn’t know he was at.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Must get him on here
kalidarkone
Bringing YOU round.....
I went out with Martin Hewes younger brother for two weeks in 1988.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
I met him once when he came to stay at Martins for a visit .Sans girlfriend though.
oryx
Sitting on the bok of the day
I remember that! (Not you being arrested - the attack on stage).
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Chris ( the woman in the middle pic is Debbie who was his partner) on a barge trip we did many many moons ago .
mx wcfc
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I shared a flat with Martin's younger brother, for a year or so. 1983/84?
Bumped into him on FB a couple of years ago, when he posted something on a Redskin's page.
kalidarkone
Bringing YOU round.....
Mike?
mx wcfc
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Yep, Mike.
kalidarkone
Bringing YOU round.....
Small world
kalidarkone
Bringing YOU round.....
He was the first boyfriend I had that I actually properly liked. I was 18 when we went out for two weeks.....
then he dumped me 
mx wcfc
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Oh no!He was the first boyfriend I had that I actually properly liked. I was 18 when we went out for two weeks.....
I think he’d just followed Martin down to London when I knew him. Might only have been 17.
we had a flat with a couple of others, on Brixton Road.
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