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Recommend some fantasy

rich! said:
China Mieville - Perdido Street Station, The Scar, Iron Council.

Perdido Street Station and The Scar are phenomenal "Steam-punk" fantasy novels.

Thoroughly, thoroughly recommended.

:cool:

Iron Council was a huge disappointement to me - I couldn't get behind any of the characters, and the story didn't really seem to do a lot....a real shame that.
 
Should I mention Iain M Banks at all?

Yes I should, and I just did.

More sci-fi than fantasy although Feersum Endjinn blurs the boundaries. The lad can write though. All very good kit.
 
Stigmata said:
It often seems like SF's embarassing cousin, but there must be some good modern fantasy literature out there. I've been reading George RR Martin's A Song of Ice & Fire series, which is fabulous, but I don't know what to try next. Is Robert Jordan any good? I thought Terry Goodkind looked interesting but then I read an interview with him and he sounds like a rightwing lunatic. :confused:
Song of Fire and Ice is amazing - only trouble is it's been so long between the previous installment and the latest one that I've completely forgotten the storyline and will have to start again :mad:

If you've seen the size of these tomes, you'd understand how frustrating that is :D
 
The Groke said:
Perdido Street Station and The Scar are phenomenal "Steam-punk" fantasy novels.

Thoroughly, thoroughly recommended.

:cool:

Iron Council was a huge disappointement to me - I couldn't get behind any of the characters, and the story didn't really seem to do a lot....a real shame that.

I've just finished Iron Council for the second time.

The first 60 or 70 pages of it seem almost pointless...

But I found myself pulled into it completely by the end, even though I knew how it ended.

I think he's said he was trying to do something different with that book than other fantasy writers have - and I'd agree that he had.
 
rich! said:
I've just finished Iron Council for the second time.

The first 60 or 70 pages of it seem almost pointless...

But I found myself pulled into it completely by the end, even though I knew how it ended.

I think he's said he was trying to do something different with that book than other fantasy writers have - and I'd agree that he had.

I didn't even finish it :o

Wasn't a concious choice, I jsut drifted away from it and then lost my place.

I know I should give it another go - especially as the missus went out of her way to buy me a ltd edition signed hardback copy..!
 
ICB said:
I'm reading the Runes of the Earth at the moment and finding it very disappointing. Whether it's because I read the other 6 when I was a teenager and am now in my 30s or what I'm not sure.

Maybe, but I'm in my 30s and I've just re-read the first 6 and loved the recent one.

So which of the stuff mentioned on here is actually properly written rather than just quite imaginative?

I think I'll skip this, as I'm guessing our tastes are a bit different...

ICB said:
Should I mention Iain M Banks at all?

No. Maybe he can write, but it's a shame about the stories, imo, because they're largely not very good.
 
ICB said:
Should I mention Iain M Banks at all?

Yes I should, and I just did.

More sci-fi than fantasy although Feersum Endjinn blurs the boundaries. The lad can write though. All very good kit.

Feersum Enjinn blurs? Don't think so - it's set on a future earth, with references to nanotech, a super advanced version of the internet called The Crypt and loads of other sci-fi elements...

Donaldson is too verbose for me - I liked the stories in the Covenant books, but OMG that man can go on (and of course, TC is a complete fucktard of a central character, making the books even harder to read)
 
Saga of the Exiles series by Julian May

and the prequels to them...but they HAVE to be read as sequels, cos that's the way she wrote them

The Galactic Mileu Trilogy

Love those books - love and lust after the hero

*swoons*
 
Jangla said:
Song of Fire and Ice is amazing - only trouble is it's been so long between the previous installment and the latest one that I've completely forgotten the storyline and will have to start again :mad:

If you've seen the size of these tomes, you'd understand how frustrating that is :D

I found the latest one hard to take in. Most of Littlefinger's politicking in the Vale is deliberately elaborate, and I lost track of annoying little things, like who currently controls Storm's End and who burned down Saltpans. The next book should pick up a bit as the more interesting characters are returning.
 
You might find this useful. A set of reviews of the 'Fantasy Masterworks' series. I don't read this stuff any more, but when I was a kid I read and highly rated several of them (the Moorcock, Crowley, Powers, Anderson and Leiber stuff) and hence it looks to me like it's probably of consistently high quality.

http://www.sfsite.com/lists/orion05.htm
 
Here's the review of 'A Broken Sword' which is a kind of anti-Tolkein ... :)

Comparisons with a contemporary, J.R.R. Tolkien, are perhaps inevitable (both works were published between 1954-55). But whereas Tolkien drew upon the Eddic sagas to create a world whose purpose was largely consolatory and supportive of Tolkien's own Christian values, Anderson abandoned himself to the original moral tenor of the Norse sagas, and a magical realm in which both men and faerie often find themselves at the mercy of capricious forces whose aims and motives are far from being clear. And while both works can in part be viewed as a reaction to the horrors of modern warfare, Tolkien holds out an offer of hope, however melancholic, whereas Anderson's vision retains the spirit of Ragnarok. And, not only in spirit, but also in compositional structure, Anderson adheres far more closely to the rhythms and traditions of his Eddic sources. The end result can be viewed as an antithesis to Tolkien's, or at least a differentiation between dual traditions, pagan and Christian, whose modern separation here is perhaps an inevitable outcome after years of enforced cohabitation within the canon of fantasy literature. And through this divergence can perhaps be seen, in miniature, the uneasy, at times almost combative schism that has since defined differing approaches to epic fantasy since the 50s, epitomized in spirit by an almost monolithic camp of Tolkienesque clones opposed by a less commercially visible if no less vibrant aesthetic that has sought to strip heroic fantasy of its consolatory guises, and typified by authors such as Moorcock and Donaldson, or more recently Erikson and Stover.
http://www.sfsite.com/12a/br141.htm
 
Please read Legend by David Gemmell, its a fantastic book.

The only downside is once you read it, you will want to get all of his other books :D
 
Stigmata said:
I found the latest one hard to take in. Most of Littlefinger's politicking in the Vale is deliberately elaborate, and I lost track of annoying little things, like who currently controls Storm's End and who burned down Saltpans. The next book should pick up a bit as the more interesting characters are returning.

I agree with you here. Although I still liked it a lot and think things are potentially developing in an interesting way, I don't think what's happening after the war is going to be as enthralling as the sudden descent of order into total bloody chaos detailed in the first three books. Also, because it has been so long between installments, I did go back and reread the first three and they are just so superb, 'A Feast For Crows' seems quite clunky by comparison. Possibly this is because of the publishing decisions he had to make re. splitting it in two from its original massive whole - I think it would have worked better if he'd kept it as one, even though I'd probably have both wrists in a cast now from trying to hold the thing up.

Anyway. I'm always going on about CJ Cherryh, who is one of my favourite writers, but am going to go on about her again because what I've read of her fantasy is as tough and fulfilling as her sci-fi. 'The Chronicles of Morgaine' is a fascinating character study and very good on the difference between reality and myth, with two wonderful central characters, a good dose of line blurring between magic and technology, and plenty of nasty action where people get the shit beaten out of them and really feel it instead of springing back into the saddle and riding heroically on. Her writing is atmospheric and the three worlds visited are seamlessly imagined and rich with emotion.
 
i'm usually a fantasy hater, but must chip in with big cheers and thumbs up for Susan Cooper's Dark Is Rising trilogy- *
a fantastic read (at least as i remember it, stumbling upon these gems on the **** public library in 7th grade), and a very dark/non-fluffy feel...

evoking ancient pagan and (in the last book) even arthurian myth, the lore of the land...

(*or was there a fourth book in the series? i don't remember)
 
LilJen said:
Saga of the Exiles series by Julian May

and the prequels to them...but they HAVE to be read as sequels, cos that's the way she wrote them

The Galactic Mileu Trilogy

Love those books - love and lust after the hero

*swoons*

Another example, loved the first three as a kid, re-read them with the later ones a few years ago and though them largely terrible, the fact that she was so inspired by the cod-philosopher Teilhard de Chardin says it all really.

Thanks Bernie and Bees, will look into some of that. Am now on the 3rd book of King's Dark Tower and it's getting better, really not bad at all in fact.

Kyse - not going to argue with you here, you've already spoilt it enough for those who've not read it and the blurriness bits should be obvious if you're not being an obstreperous git :p

Iam - puissance, percipience, incohate, cynosure, etc. Deary me, no. Sorry but he tries way too hard and ends up with a miasma of rankest turgidity. Worst of all was "a myriad, myriad, myriad" followed a few pages later by "a myriad, myriad". I was laughing my peppermint tea out of my nostrils.

Nothing to do with taste, it's just poor. ;)
 
MooChild said:
Please read Legend by David Gemmell, its a fantastic book.

The only downside is once you read it, you will want to get all of his other books :D

seconded. the waylander stuff and Sipstrassi Stones stuff is pretty good.
 
beesonthewhatnow said:
I've just finished the 2nd book of the new Soldier son trilogy, and it's shaping up to be just as good as everything else she's done.

Do you really think these books are as good as her others? :confused:

I struggled to finish Shaman's Crossing and tbh after 230 pages I'm not convinced I can be bothered finishing Forest Mage which is a bit :( coz I really enjoyed all her other books.
 
LilJen said:
Saga of the Exiles series by Julian May

and the prequels to them...but they HAVE to be read as sequels, cos that's the way she wrote them

The Galactic Mileu Trilogy

Love those books - love and lust after the hero

*swoons*

You love and lust after UNCLE ROGI??? :D :D

Ah, you must mean you lust after the anti-hero, the beastly M. Remillard.
 
I notice no-one has really listed any of the fantasy history/alternate history type of fantasys, so here's a few I've really enjoyed;

Orson Scott Card's series "The Tales of Alvin Maker"

Poul & Karen Anderson's series "The King of Ys"

and

Harry Turtledove's series "The Videssos Cycle"
 
Has anyone read a book called Broken God?

My friend thinks it's amazing, I tried it and couldn't make head nor tail of it...
 
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