Recommend me some walking boots

Discussion in 'threads and dreads' started by Maggot, Feb 21, 2011.

  1. Rutita1

    Rutita1 Scum with no integrity, apparently.

    3 years ago on my birthday Maggot decided to celebrate by buying some walking boots. What did he get? :hmm:
     
  2. Voley

    Voley Knees Up Mother Earth

    Just done the same google - it does seem to be a bit of a recurring theme doesn't it?
     
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  3. chilango

    chilango *shrugs*

    Voley all depends what you what them for IMO.

    I've just switched to trail runners for everything except Winter/big mountain and scramblingy stuff. It's been a revelation.

    Anyhow, brands I've had good experience with: La Sportiva and Scarpa. I used to love my Asolos, but I've too many niggles with them now.

    Raichle iirc don't exist anymore having been taken over by Mammut.

    Should a decent, well looked after leather boot need a goretex liner?

    Equally, goretex liners may well fail before the rest of the boot due to abrasion from the tiny bits of grit etc. that inevitably end up in the shoe. Just something to think about.
     
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  4. Maggot

    Maggot The Cake of Liberty

    I got some Brashers. And they are doing well thanks.
     
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  5. Voley

    Voley Knees Up Mother Earth

    Yeah what I'm after this time round is something that'll really take a bit of a battering. Ages ago, I started a thread called Decent Mens Boots where I was after something that would take bit of light walking but you could potter round town in and eventually ended up with some Timberlands that were sturdy enough for a walk but I could also get away with wearing to work. They've been fine for this but now I'm after something more aimed at proper hiking. I've been exploring a lot of Cornwall recently and I dug out my old trekking boots for this and they've been great but they've had their day. I've also got a vague plan to return to Nepal at some point and do the other side of the Everest trek so I'm after something high-end.

    I have heard good things about Scarpa too. Good point about leather and goretex - I wonder if that's just a gimmick with Meindl. After all, leather can be waterproofed and if the whole thing is made out of as few pieces of leather as possible why the need for another layer? Mammut do some nice looking boots if they're the people who've taken over Raichle - both of these caught my eye while googling:
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    Anyhow, trail runners are something I've been considering, too, and if i know my ability to convince myself that I absolutely need all of these things, I'll probably end up with a pair of them, too. The benefit of Cornwall in this regard is that there's loads of great places to try this kit out but the downsisde is there aren't many shops to try them on. Anyhow, I've found a place in Helston that stock Meindl, Scarpa and other good names so I'm having a trip there on Saturday to see what looks good and, more importantly, is comfy when tried on.

    What La Sportiva and Scarpa shoes have you got chilango ?
     
  6. Voley

    Voley Knees Up Mother Earth

    That's what I went for years ago and they've only just given up the ghost.
     
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  7. Epona

    Epona I am Hououin Kyouma

    I used to do a lot of walking/hiking and had a pair of Berghaus that took me through everything, around 15 years of hiking. It's been a while though, and I don't know that they still make them like they used to, nothing seems to last as long these days!

    The only advice I can give that is probably still relevant today, is when you go to try on boots, make sure to take any socks you would wear when hiking with you. I used to wear normal cotton socks and on top of them those thick thermal socks with all the loops inside to provide an insulating layer and wick away any moisture - if I'd just gone and tried on boots in my normal socks, I'd have likely come away with ones 1/2 a size too small for the fit I needed when geared up with those thick socks.
     
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  8. chilango

    chilango *shrugs*

    Voley I suspect the goretex thing is market led now. Years of brands pushing their goretex stuff has led to people thinking it's an essential component. It's not. Though it undoubtedly has it's place.

    I can't remember the model of La Sportiva boots I have, I've had had em over a decade! Blue leather. Big heavy boots that I keep for winter and high mountain stuff. Fantastic. I also have La Sportiva climbing shoes.

    My scarpas are trail runners, though I've also worn walking shoes by them. Again, fantastic.

    I've not worn Mammut shoes but my partner had a pair of Raichles that she rates.
     
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  9. chilango

    chilango *shrugs*

    I've also had surprisingly good experiences with a pair of North Face "hedgehogs" and some Salomons. Wouldn't get them now as I'm pretty specific about what I need/want from my shoes but for general, all purpose bimbling and low-key hill use they were fine.

    It really does depend a huge deal on what you plan to use them for, and where.

    No shoe/boot will do everything. So it's a matter of how specialised you need your footwear to be, how many compromises you (in terms of safety or comfort or durability) can make and how many shoes you can afford.

    I can't manage with just a general purpose boot. What works on mountains in the winter with crampons isn't going to work pounding the Ridgeway in the Summer and vice versa.
     
  10. peterkro

    peterkro Greasin' on American Express card.

    I have no experience of Mammut boots but for they have a reputation for quality outdoor wear probably bar none.I've had a shifty at some of the boots online and they seem reasonably priced.I'm guessing they haven't been in the boot making game for long but they are not going to risk their reputation by letting their brand go on an inferior product.
     
  11. chilango

    chilango *shrugs*

    Fwiw here's my boot collection:

    Winter boots

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    La Sportiva boots (these are the women's' Glacier- mine are very similar). Have been through all sorts, a decade old and whilst too heavy and stiff for general use are still my default Winter/big mountain boot.

    Hill and Mountain boot

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    Asolo Fugitive GTX. Loved these when I got them. Very comfy but decent stiffness for scramble bits. But the sole is too slippy on wet rock for my liking and the stiffness leads to discomfort on longer walks.

    Trail Runners

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    Scarpa Ignites. My newest shoes. Fantastically comfortable and super light. Not great for scrambling or serious rockiness, but they coped fine with the Fairfield Horseshoe the other day. Not waterproof but quick drying enough to make stepping in a bog not too upsetting. I can imagine they'll be my default shoe in the vast majority of cases.

    Climbing Shoe

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    La Sportiva Scorpions. Ok, not that relevant but included to underline my good experiences with La Sportiva. A beginners climbing shoe that is (relatively) comfortable to stand around (belaying or watching) at the bottom of the wall in. For a weak climber like myself, I do a lot of standing around, these are great!
     
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  12. chilango

    chilango *shrugs*

    I have a Mammut belay jacket and some soft shell pants - both are excellent quality.

    They do seem to have recently made something of a push into the mainstream UK market which makes me wary, but I've been delighted with their kit.

    I'd hope that the boots will maintain Raichle's quality but with Mammut branding.
     
  13. peterkro

    peterkro Greasin' on American Express card.

    Yeah,they do seem to be trying to expand their market beyond the very expensive technical kit.As you probably can tell I'm a bit of a fan for Haglof but that's only because I can't afford Mammut.
     
  14. Voley

    Voley Knees Up Mother Earth

    That's the sort of level I'm aiming at. Bit more flexibility maybe. I've got a feeling I'm going to end up with some Meindls no matter what mind on the basis that they look fucking cool as far as I'm concerned. :D Rang the shop today and they've put a pair aside for me to try on Saturday. I'm meant to just be trying them on. On the day after payday. Can you see where this is going?

    Also, Asolo, lol. :D
     
  15. Voley

    Voley Knees Up Mother Earth

    "I'm just going to slip into a pair of Asolos" :cool:
     
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  16. Voley

    Voley Knees Up Mother Earth

    Thanks for your help everyone, btw. Very informative even if I do end up going for the pair I saw first time round. Gonna ask about guarantees before I buy if I get some Meindls in case the sole goes. I'm sure I read somewhere they're meant to be guaranteed for life.
     
  17. chilango

    chilango *shrugs*

    I have a Haglofs jacket, which is pretty decent. Their stuff seems sound to me, and was at TNF levels of ubiquity when I was in Finland a couple of years back. Their shoes get decent reviews.
     
  18. Voley

    Voley Knees Up Mother Earth

    I found my Asolos took a right pounding on the Ridgeway, too.

    OK, I'll stop now.
     
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  19. Voley

    Voley Knees Up Mother Earth

    Yeah I think it's the Meindl Kansas ones I'm going for. Just watched this video which is essentially boot porn and I like how flexible they look. I think they're just what I'm after.


    If the sole comes off in a year, peterkro you will have every right to say 'I told you so', point, and laugh.
     
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  20. UnderAnOpenSky

    UnderAnOpenSky baseline neural therapy

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  21. Voley

    Voley Knees Up Mother Earth

    That's a pretty hefty discount Global Stoner innit? Most Scarpa stuff I've seen so far does seem to be very pricey normally.
     
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  22. UnderAnOpenSky

    UnderAnOpenSky baseline neural therapy

    Love Rock and Run...they do massive discounts on good kit all the time. Last month ended up with a pair of Scarpa trail running shoes for less then £30 and new grivel rucksack for a 1/3 the orginal price.
     
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  23. ChrisFilter

    ChrisFilter Like a boss.

    Inov8. I have a pair of GTX. They're remarkable and have seen me through 2 Oxfam Trailwalkers (64 miles in one go).
     
  24. Voley

    Voley Knees Up Mother Earth

    I'd never heard of em before now. I'll bookmark that site if they're good for discounts.

    I thought about you the other day btw. I was walking out by Bosigran Cliff and wondered if you'd ever done any climbing down here.

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  25. UnderAnOpenSky

    UnderAnOpenSky baseline neural therapy

    Never climbed in Cornwall. Keep meaning to take a week at some point and go and explore.

    Rock and Run are the only company whose emails frequently make me buy stuff.
     
  26. Voley

    Voley Knees Up Mother Earth

    Give us a shout if you ever do. I don't climb but know some cracking walks.
     
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  27. monsterbunny

    monsterbunny Well-Known Member

    If you haven't pulled the trigger yet, Voley. Lowa Munro are a good leather lined boot, designed specifically for the UK. I find that the Gore-tex lining in many boots will abrade and disintegrate too quickly and my feet get too hot. In my case the soles wear quickly and I find the cost of replacement and postage to Altberg, who replace Vibram soles, to be prohibitive so I replace my boots every two years. I'm the same with trail shoes and trainers, my 'toe and heel' gait just knackers them.
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  28. Voley

    Voley Knees Up Mother Earth

    Yeah I was tempted by them, not least because Ray Mears recommends Lowa in his Bushcraft book and you'd imagine he'd have tried and tested a few pairs. The trigger has been pulled though and I got the Meindls. Did about four miles with them today on easy dusty trails with only minimal mud and barely any rocks (so good for wearing in) and have to say that I'm really impressed so far. Most boots I've bought in the past would've had at least a bit of a rub somewhere on a first walk but there was absolutely nothing with these. They seem to have that blend of suppleness/sturdiness just about right and I don't really feel like I need to wear them in at all. Wouldn't think twice about tackling something a bit more rugged with them even now. The real test will be 6 months or so down the line of course but they feel really good so far. I gave them a quick coating of Brashers Nu-Buck waterproofing spray before I set out. Took a long time trying them out in the shop, too - I'm a 9.5 and initially I thought they felt a bit too big so tried a 9 which fit like a glove but I got the impression might rub. Asked the assistant and she recommended going for the slightly larger pair - she reckons your feet may swell a bit on a long walk (news to me but I took her word for it) and it seems to have been the right choice. I figured I could always wear two pairs of socks if it didn't work out but I don't think that'll be necessary. They feel like a pair of boots I've been wearing for years.

    Can recommend this shop in Helston btw - http://www.outbacktrading.co.uk/ - helpful staff who know their stuff. Could've happily spent thousands of pounds in there mind. If I'd indulged my fetish for outdoor kit fully there I'd be bankrupt now. :oops:
     
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  29. Voley

    Voley Knees Up Mother Earth

    OK, so that's the boots sorted. I clearly now need a pair of walking shoes, too. :facepalm: Anyone got any views on these Scarpa Mojitos:

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    Probably won't need them till next Spring tbh but I thought if I bought them round Xmas when they're out of season I might get them at a reasonable price.
     
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  30. moose

    moose like some cat from Japan

    Anything called a mojito is a good thing.
     

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