Recommend me a Tory / Lib Dem borough
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girasol
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There were BNP members in Wandsworth too, I think I've seen them a couple of them around 
Wandsworth is great for having really confusing parking signs so they can catch people up, also their street cleaning isn't as good as it could be.
apart from that it's nice, multicultural and has lots of green spaces.
Wandsworth is great for having really confusing parking signs so they can catch people up, also their street cleaning isn't as good as it could be.
apart from that it's nice, multicultural and has lots of green spaces.
There were BNP members in Wandsworth too, I think I've seen them a couple of them around
Wandsworth is great for having really confusing parking signs so they can catch people up, also their street cleaning isn't as good as it could be.
apart from that it's nice, multicultural and has lots of green spaces.
Sounds good and no chance of Labour getting hold of it - fabulous.
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
Funnily enough, that's more or less what some bod is saying in Thailand at the moment - the current leaders vote was invalid because the poor didn't know who or what they were voting for...
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
It also appears to be some people's attitude towards Hugo Chavez.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I lived in Haringey for a couple of years. Inasmuch as local government affected me, they seemed to do the basics ok – rubbish collection, pothole filling in, etc. Beyond that, I can't say I noticed them.Once you get a Labour council its very difficult to get rid of them unless they piss off people who are motivated to vote as in Hammersmith and Fulham. Voter apathy is the corrupt Labour councillors greatest asset.
I did get involved in a political activity in Harringey which was cross party but was against the Labour planning dept but sadly despite mass support for the cause the council rejected what the community wanted (a continuation of the existing community and small business facility) in favour of what the (probably bent) councillors wanted which was a huge fuck off gated housing development
This was the final straw for me. Never again do I want to live in a Labour corrupt shithole. The irony is the gated communtiy that Labour have approved is going to fuck up about 30 mostly ethnic minority businesses - so much for all the equal opps bollocks they spout.
Here in Hastings, the council (no overall control) is much more proactive, and seems to have a more hands-on approach to improving the town. They were given a large sum of money by the EU a couple of years ago, though, which helps. Circumstances like these are as important as, or more important than, political flags.
Andy the Don
Wise men say only fools..
There were BNP members in Wandsworth too, I think I've seen them a couple of them around
Wandsworth is great for having really confusing parking signs so they can catch people up, also their street cleaning isn't as good as it could be.
apart from that it's nice, multicultural and has lots of green spaces.
Wandsworth is a typical tory council, low council tax and fuck all services for those who do not vote tory.
Don't bother me that much. They will have the statutory services that they have to provide such as libraries etc but none of the fripperies and waste that have characterised my experiences of Labour boroughs.
Besides that most of the 'services' that Labour boroughs offer are not available to those who work.
girasol
Addicted to handstands!
The bit of Wandsworth we live in is Labour
But there seems to be little chance of the whole borough going down the toilet and voting Labour is there?
girasol
Addicted to handstands!
only because the council tax is so cheap, not for any real ideological reasons...
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
There's the rub. You want to live somewhere with lower council tax, that does the bare minimum that you need as someone in work. And fuck everyone else. You'd vote Johnson just to avoid paying for your Land Rover, and Tory to pay less council tax. Very noble.
If you like laissez faire capitalism so much, why don't you go and live in Russia?
I don't mind paying taxes I just don't like seeing taxpayers money wasted which is my personal experience of Labour boroughs.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
What specific examples can you give of Haringey council wasting money?
I've lived in Sutton and it was a pretty good borough, did the whole green thing early, lots of parks, not bad links to london, some nice areas in the borough as a whole.
Olga Maitland used to be the MP though, it's Tom Brake and another liberal whose name escapes me now.
It's a bit of a Liberal one party state though
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
I reckon he should move to Malaysia or Indonesia, wherever derf claims to live, so he could employ children as staff and live the life of riley, and paying very little in taxes to 'underserving' types.
Seven Sisters Bridge Project for a start. Doesn't seem to be working for the people but does seem to be working for developers.
Backing the Grainger plan to demolish Seven Sisters market despite massive local oppostition.
Schools in Tory boroughs are better. My elderly parents are treated like shit by a Labour borough so it would be no change there.
Thats more reflective of the background of the pupils than the actual borough - Tory boroughs are those where lots of rich people live.
All the educational research shows that children of rich people do better at school and this rather than the quality of the school is the main determinant of educational achievement.
Fair point but I think that there is an equal weight that needs to be placed on parental attitudes not just parental income. A low earning parent who encourages their children to learn will have children that will value education. Whereas a parent who is chavscum who derides their child for reading a book (yup I've actually seen this in surprise surprise Dagenham) is going to have a child that doesn't value education and is going to fail.
Income does make a difference but I don't believe that it is the whole story.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Now you're confusing me. Are you saying that 'chavscum' who chastise their children for reading are voting Labour? I would have thought that such a person is very unlikely to vote at all in local elections.
No I'm not I was commenting on the quality of intake to schools. I've seen wealthy offspring of people who don't value education plummet down into dribbling stupidity the same as the offspring of poor people.
The only difference is the wealthy parent may be able to find a suitable employment position via contacts for theri more stupid offspring.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Well if you want diversity and good schools, I suggest you stick to Haringey. At the primary school on my road in Harringay, a staggering 280 different languages were spoken. I can't comment directly on the quality of the school, but from seeing the kids in the playground, they looked like a happy bunch.
danny la rouge
Ninja swords for all disabled people
Zachor, your lack of understanding of class is truly astonishing.
Come back when you've read up on it.
Come back when you've read up on it.
(it's welll known for having lots of good schools)
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Oh, and if you want schools with parents who are keen on education, you will do a lot worse than to choose a school with a high proportion of children of immigrants. 
Oh, and if you want schools with parents who are keen on education, you will do a lot worse than to choose a school with a high proportion of children of immigrants.
Aspirational Nigerian mothers FTW!
Poor Fumeh!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=s86HnJbp2qs
Oh, and if you want schools with parents who are keen on education, you will do a lot worse than to choose a school with a high proportion of children of immigrants.
You might have a point there. Although that depends on the type of immigrants. I once taught in a school that had quite a few kids of Pathan extraction and they were the most resistant to education according to other members of staff.
I want diversity in a school but I woudln't want my child to feel isolated or alone or one of a kind. That was me at school and I fucking hated it.
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