RAF doc found guilty

[Col_Buendia]

Bob...? Bob...? Are you lost? No answer from the boards' own international law expert? Or are you still on the lash?

 

[TAE]

you grabbed a prisoner . he may have been injured in the capture. he may have been injured before capture. he may try to self harm. he could actually be completely insane. thats why you have a doctor so you cover your own back . the doc signs the prisoner was fit for interrogation and signs the prisoner was not injured in interrogation.
Otherwise how can you prove the blokes not been tortured when he pops up on aljazera after being realised the object is togather information.
the army has a duty of care over prisoners and intelligencie take that very seriously. the cases where abuse has taken place in the british army have been at low level if a prisoner is handed over to the people who suppoused to look after them there well treated that way your more likely to get info out of them.

That's fair enough, except when (as shown on TV recently) the troops beat the guys up before the doctor has even seen them.

 

[likesfish]

did a basic pow handaling course many moons ago and guard on interogation exercises.
int corp guy was very strict on the leave the interrogation to the pros.
They don't torture prisoners its not effective and intelligence corps don't get off on inflicting pain. Infantry types might especially if you've been activily trying to kill them moments before .
security services may have looser ideas but int cop are well aware of the geniva convention what they can and can't do. interrogation could be the classic good cop bad cop type or a casual conversation over a cup of tea. what to unaware observour appears to be a fairly random conversation actually gains a lot of information.
if you reach the stage where the doc is going to be present your going to be ok its in the intial stage of capture and if your held at sub unit where abuse is likely to take place .
Don't think the army has any duty not to engage in wars of aggresion goverment may have, the chief of defense staff wanted proof this was was legal and apprantly got it.

 

[Col_Buendia]

Ty 4 reply

According to this, story they were not prepared to go to war while they thought it was illegal. So they were aware and concerned about this duty.

And later Admiral Boyce said:

Boyce has consistently said he believed the war was legal and morally justified. But, asked whether the government had provided him with the legal cover necessary to avoid prosecution for war crimes, he replied: 'No.'

Observer story

 

[TAE]

Infantry types might especially if you've been activily trying to kill them moments before .

Many infantry types out on a Friday night will punch you for far less than that.

 

[likesfish]

always remember some student came up to me in cambridge and said " I support the IRA" looked quite shocked when I decked him

 

[TAE]

I was talking about unprovoked attacks - you know, squaddies looking for a fight.

 

[dylanredefined]

but lot of civis do that as well uk habit unfortunatly.

 

[TAE]

Yeah but most civis aren't given the kinds of responsibilities that we are talking about here.

 

[Bigdavalad]

Yeah but most of them aren't trained killers.

How many squaddies go out on the lash with their rifle or bayonet? Because that's the only thing any squaddie is trained to kill with.

 

[Bob_the_lost]

Yeah but most civis aren't given the kinds of responsibilities that we are talking about here.

Indeed, beer is not to be trusted to civilians.

Or doctors.

 

[TAE]

We are talking about infantry men's behaviour and my observation was that you don't have to threaten a soldier's life in order to get a kicking. Sometimes you don't even have to do anything - just be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

 

[Bob_the_lost]

We are talking about infantry men's behaviour and my observation was that you don't have to threaten a soldier's life in order to get a kicking. Sometimes you don't even have to do anything - just be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

True.

 

[Bigdavalad]

We are talking about infantry men's behaviour and my observation was that you don't have to threaten a soldier's life in order to get a kicking. Sometimes you don't even have to do anything - just be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Sometimes you don't have to threaten a civvie's life to get a kicking. Violence isn't a preserve of the military.

 

[TAE]

This thread is about the military.

 

[Bob_the_lost]

This thread is about the military.

No it's not, it's about a doctor who served with the RAF.

If you can't see why that's a tenuous link in more than one way...

 

[TAE]

Post #63

 

[Col_Buendia]

And while you're at it, how about an answer to post 53, Bob?