littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Ghetto is a strong word. Name me one 'front line' in South London.mashedmaryland said:
No I haven't always lived in London, but I have lived in North, NE, SE and SW.
Racism in London
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No I haven't always lived in London, but I have lived in North, NE, SE and SW.
mashedmaryland
New Member
in south london ! come on where do you want to start have you ever been to parts of peckham bermondsey and thats just too
brixton and clapham north may be all pretty now but you get it into the main estates look at fenwick estate for instance
brixton and clapham north may be all pretty now but you get it into the main estates look at fenwick estate for instance
mashedmaryland
New Member
sorry i got carried away
i ment to say look at the fenwick estate for instance
i ment to say look at the fenwick estate for instance
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I used to live in Peckham Rye and, for a decade, in nearby New Cross. There is no front line in Peckham, mate.mashedmaryland said:
mashedmaryland
New Member
then you dont know peckham ! sorry to say that but you dont
Divisive Cotton
Now I just have my toy soldiers
Canning Town is very notorious - so if you say it's the most racist place you've ever lived in then you're probably right!
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
I really like Stoke Newington. White, black, Turkish, Asian, Jewish, and now loads of Poles all rubbing along together without much bother. Haven't really seen any racism here in the last five years.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Define front line for me please. As I understand it, it is a place past which you do not pass if you are the wrong colour or don't live in a place. I'm not just talking about places that are a bit of a dump.mashedmaryland said:
Numbers
an ting!
You're understanding is wrong then.littlebabyjesus said:
Brixton is a frontline area, imo anyway. But I as a white man can walk through there anytime night or day. So frontline is not signified by that alone.
Frontline to me is somewhere unsafe (to a degree) where anything goes and it's in your face.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Sorry, T, but if Brixton is a frontline area, that makes the term so vague that it is useless.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Because I don't think Brixton is exceptionally violent or agressive. You'd have to include New Cross and Deptford too on that score, and they really aren't that bad.
Numbers
an ting!
so what do you want, bloodshed on every corner cos of the colour of your skin etc.. to justfiy the tag frontline.
frontline traditionally is a zone of confrontation. Brixton is a zone of confrontation, like many others.
maybe they aren't frontline like around the time of the riots, thank god for that.
but it is still a frontline area, paved with many many hazards.
frontline traditionally is a zone of confrontation. Brixton is a zone of confrontation, like many others.
maybe they aren't frontline like around the time of the riots, thank god for that.
but it is still a frontline area, paved with many many hazards.
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
no indeed it's a sad indicative that london is in fact the pinical of the tollerence scale in the uk...Epicurus said:
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
@Mr Numbers. Ok, we're arguing over semantics I think. What I meant by frontline was somewhere that was 'no-go' for certain kinds of people. You are using the word differently.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
littlebabyjesus said:
Like Tooting f'rinstance?
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
but... but... but... your the grand high wizard of the local kkk group ....goldenecitrone said:
(Kentucky Khicken Krew)
stokie has a villag ementality though and there is racism there i have often heard the phrase well you expect that from a black boy from the indians there and the level of jewish racism against the asians families there is quite bad too ...
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
that would make south london a front line as far as i'm concerned...littlebabyjesus said:
which it isn't blardy sarf lundun... <shakes fist> it's not real lundun...f for fake
Beer & whisky please
my time at uni
When i was at uni i was going out with the sexest girl i have ever had the luck to shag. Im white, shes asian.
We got eyed by everyone, not just white bastards. But by asians and blacks. I am lucky enough not to give a fuck about skin colour, If i hate some one if because of who they are not the fucking skin colour. I have always found it funny how white girls slag of dark skinned people, yet go to the beach and cook there white skin to become darker. Or put tonns of fake tan on..
Racism is everywhere and the only way it will go is by people living in areas where it is mixed.
heres to a better future,
When i was at uni i was going out with the sexest girl i have ever had the luck to shag. Im white, shes asian.
We got eyed by everyone, not just white bastards. But by asians and blacks. I am lucky enough not to give a fuck about skin colour, If i hate some one if because of who they are not the fucking skin colour. I have always found it funny how white girls slag of dark skinned people, yet go to the beach and cook there white skin to become darker. Or put tonns of fake tan on..
Racism is everywhere and the only way it will go is by people living in areas where it is mixed.
heres to a better future,
BlackSpecs
The DogFather
f for fake said:
yup...lets make love until all new generations are grey! maybe then we can start worrying about important stuff !
f for fake
Beer & whisky please
tony1798 said:
I live in an area of brum that is mostly white. Where i see a lot of white people being rasist to other people. What i ment if we lived in non white, black, eastern european areas then after a while, then may be, may be there would be less of it. I understand that this is an idear that may seem daft, ie just because people live in a mixed area does not mean people will mix.
But we have to start somewhere.
Treacle Toes
Time
STFC said:
Well that may be true , but then to increasing amounts of people, 'their own' would be/actually is mixed.....
@ Blackspecs........................... mixing the races up doesn't make shades of grey....it actually makes shades of brown.
BlackSpecs
The DogFather
Rutita1 said:Well that may be true , but then to increasing amounts of people, 'their own' would be mixed.....
@ Blackspecs........................... mixing the races up doesn't make shades of grey....it actually makes shades of brown.
Beautiful !
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Call me a hippy if you like, but I think everyone is being way too pessimistic on this thread. 
I hope Mrs LBJ and I will have kids, and I hope that they will be able to be happy despite any prejudice they will encounter. There are plenty of good people in the world.
I hope Mrs LBJ and I will have kids, and I hope that they will be able to be happy despite any prejudice they will encounter. There are plenty of good people in the world.
Numbers
an ting!
I'm certainly not pessimistic. no chance, how often do you hear me have a moan like I have on this thread LBJ. You and I are in very similar relationships, and I rise above it 99.9999999% of the time. But by me not making a meal of it doesn't make it any less rampant.
[quote[tbaldwin]A lot of white incomers would agree with you. Cost they live in a bubble and dont see all the trouble..
I wonder how many genuinelly local people you really know?[/quote]
spot on.. I had this conversation recently, 3 weeks ago in fact. in the room were 3 of my best pals. 1 English, 1 Black, 1 Iranian and me Irish. Our english pal, who is a great great pal was talking about how racism isn't as prevalent anymore... until we all shared our experiences, recent experiences too. And he agreed, he doesn't see it nor is he aware of it, cos he's white english.
[quote[tbaldwin]A lot of white incomers would agree with you. Cost they live in a bubble and dont see all the trouble..
I wonder how many genuinelly local people you really know?[/quote]
spot on.. I had this conversation recently, 3 weeks ago in fact. in the room were 3 of my best pals. 1 English, 1 Black, 1 Iranian and me Irish. Our english pal, who is a great great pal was talking about how racism isn't as prevalent anymore... until we all shared our experiences, recent experiences too. And he agreed, he doesn't see it nor is he aware of it, cos he's white english.
Treacle Toes
Time
littlebabyjesus said:Call me a hippy if you like, but I think everyone is being way too pessimistic on this thread.
I hope Mrs LBJ and I will have kids, and I hope that they will be able to be happy despite any prejudice they will encounter. There are plenty of good people in the world.
I'm not being pessamistic LBJ. When it comes to race relations and 'mixing' I am one of the most optimistic people I know.
This may have a lot to do with the fact I am mixed race myself, but equally it has as much to do with my experiences or culture and racism, from both Black people and White people.
I feel I am lucky to be in the position I am. I truly believe 'mixed race' people are priviledged to occupy the place they do in this world. I won't lie and say it isn't sometimes a burden, but it's worth it.
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