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Race and intelligence

the term "race" is a lie. The difference in intelligence between humans is in Culture they were raised in.

Sorry have I derailed this thread from the "Belishi Show" ??
 
I thought the programme could not make up its mind between saying it was bollocks, that iq is a load of shit, and saying that iq is linked with achievement and blaming it all on cultural factors.

Culture all the way for me - shame theres not a study in the iq's of social groups, i'm sure working class blacks/whites/chinese would be all virtually identical. Traditionally there's always been more percentage-wise of the middle class whites than blacks - them fellas bring the average up, tho as they said, things are changing fast.
All the 3 African people i work with have kids doing top degrees currently.
 
I thought the programme could not make up its mind between saying it was bollocks, that iq is a load of shit, and saying that iq is linked with achievement and blaming it all on cultural factors.

Culture all the way for me - shame theres not a study in the iq's of social groups, i'm sure working class blacks/whites/chinese would be all virtually identical. Traditionally there's always been more percentage-wise of the middle class whites than blacks - them fellas bring the average up, tho as they said, things are changing fast.
All the 3 African people i work with have kids doing top degrees currently.

Good ole Blair
 
It's a social truth, your astounding science aside.

For social read "culture" (and I have no astounding links for that, you'll be glad to read) So no arguments there.

Totally separate in terms of Truth.

However, one is politics and the other is science. I know which one I'd rather believe in how I should view my fellow Humans.

We have to aim for the higher ground (surly?)
 
For social read "culture" (and I have no astounding links for that, you'll be glad to read) So no arguments there.

Totally separate in terms of Truth.

The former is politics the latter is science. I know which one I'd rather believe in how I should view my fellow Humans.

We have to aim for the higher ground (surly?)

Ignore social truth at your peril. Tell me that racism doesn't exist. I know which one etc
 
For social read "culture" (and I have no astounding links for that, you'll be glad to read) So no arguments there.

Totally separate in terms of Truth.

However, one is politics and the other is science. I know which one I'd rather believe in how I should view my fellow Humans.

We have to aim for the higher ground (surly?)

This is just massive drivel. I was too polite to say it on my other post.
 
Ignore social truth at your peril. Tell me that racism doesn't exist. I know which one etc

As a political phenomena, yes it does.

It's about re-thinking and re-educating this notion of "race" that's at the route of tis particular type of prejudice.

We need to trash this term, because it's been used to often by scum to justify unspeakable crimes. In reality (impirically) it has absolutely no basis what-so-ever.
 
As a political phenomena, yes it does.

It's about re-thinking and re-educating this notion of "race" that's at the route of tis particular type of prejudice.

We need to trash this term, because it's been used to often by scum to justify unspeakable crimes.

Yeah man
 
Not likely, but from where did this Mother spring? Egg? UFO?

From her mother. Going back from this one female that lived about 200,000 years ago, every female right down the female->female line is the mother of all humanity. The 'mitochondrial Eve' is just the most recent.

Her IQ is undocumented.

There are almost certainly much more recent 'mothers of all humanity' but they won't be ancestors solely through the female line.
 
As a political phenomena, yes it does.

That's the thing. The programme never quite nailed the point that likening 'race' to intelligence makes about as much sense as likening having blue eyes, or long fingers, or pointy teeth to intelligence. The amount of variety that occurs within races far outstrips the variety between races on almost every measure.
 
From her mother. Going back from this one female that lived about 200,000 years ago, every female right down the female->female line is the mother of all humanity. The 'mitochondrial Eve' is just the most recent.

Her IQ is undocumented.

There are almost certainly much more recent 'mothers of all humanity' but they won't be ancestors solely through the female line.


Never thought that people (part from religious nuts) still believed in this one-mama theory. Did she fall out of the sky?
 
Never thought that people (part from religious nuts) still believed in this one-mama theory. Did she fall out of the sky?

I already said where she came from. Reading comprehension not too good or just a bit pissed? Wikipedia isn't actually bad on this one, look up 'mitochondrial eve'.
 
That's the thing. The programme never quite nailed the point that likening 'race' to intelligence makes about as much sense as likening having blue eyes, or long fingers, or pointy teeth to intelligence. The amount of variety that occurs within races far outstrips the variety between races on almost every measure.

Being locally adapted to your environment (ie skin colour) does not denote a difference in race.

Anyhow...A better link for the God-botherers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve
 
That's the thing. The programme never quite nailed the point that likening 'race' to intelligence makes about as much sense as likening having blue eyes, or long fingers, or pointy teeth to intelligence. The amount of variety that occurs within races far outstrips the variety between races on almost every measure.

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