Bakunin
I am Noodle's bitch.
Always been in favour of unions discontinuing Labour campaign donations, myself. It's not as if the Labour party actually represents workers, and possibly never really did.
Questions to the lefty types
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Always been in favour of unions discontinuing Labour campaign donations, myself. It's not as if the Labour party actually represents workers, and possibly never really did.
Bernie Gunther
Fundamentalist Druid
Wonder what wingnut site that question list came from?
On the other hand:
1) Do you belive that it's OK for poor people to starve to death?
2) Do you think that it's OK to stone adulteresses and gays to death?
3) Do you think it's OK to start wars in contravention of international law?
4) Do you think that it's OK to deny abortions to women who were raped?
5) Do you believe that superstition is more authoritative than science?
6) Do you believe that profits are more important than human life?
etc.
On the other hand:
1) Do you belive that it's OK for poor people to starve to death?
2) Do you think that it's OK to stone adulteresses and gays to death?
3) Do you think it's OK to start wars in contravention of international law?
4) Do you think that it's OK to deny abortions to women who were raped?
5) Do you believe that superstition is more authoritative than science?
6) Do you believe that profits are more important than human life?
etc.
Yes i agree with you now ,but then labour was more union friendly .and tebbit was trying to weaken opposition in an undemocratic way
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
Only if they're an asshat about it, like you.
Of course you do. But when you post them on a public bulletin board, you open yourself up to criticism. It's not a difficult concept to grasp, if you make the effort.
Yes, though this list is a classic example of poor reasoning and an attempt to construct an argument based on poorly phrased leading questions divorced from the context that they were drawn from.
Yawn.
No. Governments, left wing or otherwise, tend to do that when they're trying to establish themselves.
Why the fuck would I care? Fuck Scargill.
So the entire IWW and their supporters, with statements from the people involved in the dispute are one poster with nothing to back what they're saying up? Come off it, you're the one who with absolutely zero knowledge of the situation, came on here trying to smear Chris Lockwood because, as I've already explained, you're an asshat.
Couldn't really give a toss what left wing polliticians do with their money.
Well yes, obviously. History is replete with examples of elected governments being removed from power by other means.
If who didn't share my political opinions, the government or the people taking the action in question?
Depends on the context. He certainly shouldn't be afforded any of the protections or benefits that may have been previously provided to him by his union.
Who gives a fuck?
Sure, why not? By working, you contribute to society and therefore are, on some level, necessary to it's continued functioning. Bin men are just as essential to society as doctors, for instance.
Violence by who, against who and for what reason?
Why wouldn't it be?
Who gives a shit?
I think they should be challenged verbally when they express those opinions, and opposed by whatever means necessary when they try to put them into action.
Now, is there any point to this? Besides proving that there really is such a thing as a stupid question?
Nice turn around.
1 - no problem as I'm usually right.
2 - You have.
3 - yes. I don't need to start name calling to try to argue a point in favour of the free market.
4 - Depends on how far right. If it comes to racism it's both stupid and bad for business.
5 - no. All extreme right wing government fuck up their country but I've never argued for that as some on here argue for the extreme left. All I want is free capitalism. That always works.
6 - Yes the lady did so as he was useful at the time. If you can't stop them at least use them
7 - no way
8 - No. As capitalists we don't say anyone else should so why should we. We also promote wealth as a good thing so no problem. We don't make loads of money and tell the tories they are rich bastards like some lefty MPs
9 - No. Iraq was a major fuck up. I'm happy to say it was a labour government that took the UK into such a stupid war.
9a - No. Not reasonable and bad for business in the long term.
10 - Up to him as long as he doesn't expect to use the office tea machine or get paid for his time.
11 - Quite OK as I said capitalists don't spout on about equality.
12 - No from either side
13 - If the bloke owns the company it's up to him what he does. If the company fails he looses out as well. If it's management then they deserve to be sacked if they are a problem to making greater profit. The workers are second to this.
14 - Not at all. I have seen one lefty twat on Iranian TV doing his thing. I suppose he moved there when his ex lord and master Sadders got to feel the end of a rope.
15 - I happen to think that free health care, education and so on are a good idea. As long as they are well run I believe that free education using the Grammar school system is good for the children and thus for business and the country as a whole.
Same for health care. Apart from my moral leaning to it I believe that a healthy workforce is good for business.
As for silly commie ideals about a managed economy and equality for all. These things are total bollocks. People are allowed to hold such opinions but I would hate to see any more countries have to put up with them in power.
Nice of you to ask. She now goes to school 2 days a week and her free English lessons from her caring employer are going well.
The schools here are running up to hari raya (Great day) when there will be a holiday.
She off to visit her sister for a week so we'll just have to manage without a servant for a while.
Here have another one about his fight for equality and how low his earning are.
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm/cmregmem/436/43609.htm
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm/cmregmem/436/43609.htm
bitter and aggressive, me, never. I'm a softy really.
Just interested to see who can answer questions that expose cracks in left wing ideas and special attention to the lefty types who preach equality but make a mint themselves.
i'll read your answers when i'm sober
i'm surprised you bothered to answer them, you know they are silly questions lol
questions 3,4,5 and 15 are the ones that interest me
you do know the history of the NHS and how hard the left fought for it and how hard the right fought against it?
i'm surprised you bothered to answer them, you know they are silly questions lol
questions 3,4,5 and 15 are the ones that interest me
you do know the history of the NHS and how hard the left fought for it and how hard the right fought against it?
scifisam
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bitter and aggressive, me, never. I'm a softy really.
Just interested to see who can answer questions that expose cracks in left wing ideas and special attention to the lefty types who preach equality but make a mint themselves.
What, you mean draw out the idea that there are some left-wing politicians who make lots of money? Aside from the fact that the UK doesn't have that many left-wing politicians, who would ever deny that politicians of any stripe can be bastards? Turns out, from the answers to your ridiculous questions, that nobody does deny that at all.
I can picture you typing all this out, crowing about how clever you're being and how you're going to get one up on those Urbanite socialists. The only way you've succeeded at all is that some polite people have actually answered your manipulative questions.
Not if the disagreement is well-informed and informative.
I am, are you?
What do you mean by "extreme left"? Many of your posts appear to project that you believe new labour to be dangerously socialistic, so our perceptions of what is "extreme left" may differ somewhat.
That'd depend on both the context of Scargill's original comments, and the context in which you decided to place the comments.
That'd depend on the poster, the allegations and whether I was physically well enough to do so.
Most left-wing politicians do do their political work for minimal remuneration. I suspect you're falling into the "new labour is socialist" error again.
Mass murder (or "a homage to Guido Fawkes", as I like to think of it).
Depends on the logical basis for doing so.
Officially? Removal of his union membership and blacklisting by all other unions.
If he's made "large chunks of money from his position" he's liable to be breaking the law. If he/she has made large chunks of money outwith their political responsibilities that a matter for their conscience and for revolutionary justice.
This question makes no sense because you've (unsurprisingly) given it no context.
By whom?
In a perfect world reward would be commensurate with both degree of effort and degree of skill, so while you'd have pay differentials, they'd be minimal and incremental.
I think you'll find that all broadcast networks are, by their very nature, propagandistic.
I'm fine with people holding those opinions, I'm even against the idea of "no platform for the BNP". It generally makes it easier to expose those opinions as the pernicious trash they are if they're out in the open, you see.
Good morning Mr VP. You are one of the few poster on here I have respect for as you alway try to put forward a reasonable argument to support your opinions and ask intelligent questions.
Yes.
New labout are more tory than I am most of the time.
My interest is those who would have us believe that communist leaning are in some way a good idea. I little light socialism isn't good but it's not as bad as that managed market and equality crap that many seem to believe.
The left wingers tend to make a good few bob if the register of members interests is correct.
Unofficially ?
Anyone.
I can't agree with that. People should be paid according to skill and effort.
No one would work for years to become a top doctor with all the stress and responsibility that entails if he could make the same driving a taxi or sweeping the roads
Many are. But as Orwell may have put it. Some are more propagandist than others. Iranian press TV is a bit more than many but not as bad a VOA.
Still press does have some very interesting non political stuff about Iranian culture and life.
It would be good for the likes of Bush to watch a little of it so that he can see that people are just people and not faceless targets for his war on terror.
I am also happy for people to hold political opinions of any sort and agree that no one should be banned from putting their views forward even if the are a vile as the BNP or as stupid as the communists.
What sort of chap would I be if I refused to answer my own questions?
I am aware of the rough history of the NSH and the error that was made in fighting it's formation.
As I said I believe that with a little sorting out and getting rid of the waste it's good for business as well as fitting with my moral views.
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
given that your instinct is evidently to support multinational cinema companies over workers trying to assert their rights, I would suggest morality has very little to do with any of your views.
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
The irony is, that the cinema company in question is the 'filmshorts' type - all 'on it' ... but a facade of 'on it' by paying min wage and sacking for challenging. It's the fair trade version of cinemas.
Not the same thing at all.
One is helping those who can't afford treatment to get it and the other is a gobby trouble maker who sounds like he deserved the boot.
So why the day of action. If he was sacked without good reason there are other reasonable ways of going about it legally and without asking for a gang of loonies who have nothing to do with it to turn up.
I suspect that he knows he was out of order and deserved to be kicked out.
danny la rouge
Ninja swords for all disabled people
OK, so, you imagine all lefties support Galloway's every move?
For clarity, I think he's a twat, always have done since he was my MP, and, frankly, he's deserving of being up against the wall come the revolution, the smug, yuppie, self-serving, ego-stroking twat.
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
what a pitiful forelock-tugging little creep you are, living in a world where people on minimum wage standing up for themselves are 'gobby troublemakers' and large companies get 'ganged up on' by a few dozen people.
it was 'gobby troublemakers' who won virtually every freedom and every right that we have in this country, and it'll be 'gobby troublemakers' who'll defend them, while pathetic specimens like you continue to cringe before any available authority.
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
well maybe he's not in a position to wait until the outcome of an industrial tribunal? perhaps he thinks there's a principle involved in the right to organise/join a trade union and freedom of association that isn't fulfilled by going to court and getting recompense for unfair dismissal (after all, the company has still got rid of a 'gobby troublemaker', even if they had to pay to do it)
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
LOL!!!! This is a wind up - right?
Bakunin
I am Noodle's bitch.
He'll also probably blame those same 'gobby troublemakers' for not fighting hard enough to protect his own rights, if and when they are infringed or restricted.
Oh, the irony.
danny la rouge
Ninja swords for all disabled people
Or, a low-paid worker fighting for fundamental rights. You don't see it that way, and don't want to support him. That's your call. I think you're about as wrong as you can be. And, frankly, your choice in this matter sides you with the enemy. Your choice, but don't expect our hearts to bleed for you.
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Because the Company refused to hear his appeal, seemingly in breach of the statutory dispute resolution legislation.
I suspect the cinema is being run by people like you.
lights.out.london
Black Flag
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Who gives a manky dog penis about George Galloway? the only "left" he represents are the few thousand members of "Respect" or whatever they call themselves now.
You need to stop conflating personality and policy, soft lad. They're not the same thing.
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