Question to Muslim anti voters

[pilchardman]

And the Bible.

And, to be fair, any newspaper left lying around.

 

[levien]

You seem like a prat but I'm bored so hee is your answer.

The main UK group arguing it is unIslamic to vote were Hiz-but-tuheir (spelling isn't my strog point.) Since the government zoned in on them they've taken a bit of a turn to other muslim organistions and the movement in order to save their organisational skins. See the huge presense on the last anti-war demo and the march called at the same time as the peace conference.

As a result they've been effectively silenced on questions like this, which (what ever your opinion of them) is pretty outragous.

 

[Donna Ferentes]

And the Bible.

And, to be fair, any newspaper left lying around.

Whereas a cat, being civilised, will merely sit on a newspaper.

 

[levien]

On an interesting aside HT don't believe its unIslamic to vote per se just that you could theoretically only vote for someone who would represent your veiws and beliefs 100%. A sort of Islamic version of the "pure socialism" preached on here by certain sects. HT also belive that only their version of Islam is he correct interpretation of the holy texts (cough) Workers Power.

 

[pilchardman]

You seem like a prat

Thank you. Are you new here; I've never noticed you before.

 

[tangentlama]

Thank you. Are you new here; I've never noticed you before.

no, levien's been here a while...

 

[pilchardman]

Doesn't seem to have got used to the humour, then.

 

[levien]

Doesn't seem to have got used to the humour, then.

No I understad you are trying to be funny. Its the way you are trying to be funny that suggests you are a prat.

(and I've been on P&P for almost 4 years mate)

 

[pilchardman]

No I understad you are trying to be funny. Its the way you are trying to be funny that suggests you are a prat.

(and I've been on P&P for almost 4 years mate)

Uhuh. There was ongoing banter that I took part in. If you don't like it you don't need to partake. Gratuitous insults are not banter, btw.

Who were you previously, "mate", if you've been here 4 years?

 

[Donna Ferentes]

Isn't this thread dead yet? I put a lot of hard work into killking it. It's like the start of Goodfellas.

 

[levien]

Isn't this thread dead yet? I put a lot of hard work into killking it. It's like the start of Goodfellas.

Sorry (I'm really bored) - decided to explain to pilchard here why his comments on this thread paint him as a bit of a prat.


pilchy - Anti-Muslim rubish (even dressed up as radical anarchism) isn't any funnier then the kids in the school next door calling each other gay and about as clever.

Levien aka Cliffite

 

[pilchardman]

Isn't this thread dead yet? I put a lot of hard work into killking it. It's like the start of Goodfellas.

Did you? I thought you were just being skittish.

You have a problem with various strands of Islam being questioned why, exactly?

 

[pilchardman]

pilchy - Anti-Muslim rubish (even dressed up as radical anarchism) isn't any funnier then the kids in the school next door calling each other gay and about as clever.

Is Islam beyond questioning? I had no idea. I didn't get that central committee bulletin.

As an atheist, a rationalist, and a democrat I'll ask questions about whatever I like, thanks. Especially when the groups I'm asking questions of are keen to put out their views for all to see. It cuts both ways.

 

[Donna Ferentes]

You have a problem with various strands of Islam being questioned

Pas du tout. De omnibus dubitandum, after all. I just wondered whether a propitious and multifaceted debate was either the likely result or the likely intention in this instance.

 

[levien]

Is Islam beyond questioning? I had no idea. I didn't get that central committee bulletin.

As an atheist, a rationalist, and a democrat I'll ask questions about whatever I like, thanks. Especially when the groups I'm asking questions of are keen to put out their views for all to see. It cuts both ways.

rational debate thats what this thread was aiming at - how could I have missed it in amongst the mad mullah and dog shitting comments. Stupid me, there I went adding my childish "answer" above, doh.

 

[pilchardman]

I see the hymn sheet has been handed out.

 

[In Bloom]

Sorry (I'm really bored) - decided to explain to pilchard here why his comments on this thread paint him as a bit of a prat.


pilchy - Anti-Muslim rubish (even dressed up as radical anarchism) isn't any funnier then the kids in the school next door calling each other gay and about as clever.

Levien aka Cliffite

Where has anybody here expressed any specifically anti-Muslim sentiments (as opposed to generally anti-religious)?

 

[2wheeledathiest]

On an interesting aside HT don't believe its unIslamic to vote per se just that you could theoretically only vote for someone who would represent your veiws and beliefs 100%. A sort of Islamic version of the "pure socialism" preached on here by certain sects. HT also belive that only their version of Islam is he correct interpretation of the holy texts (cough) Workers Power.

Sorry, coming in a bit late here. This is the basis of Wahabist thought, it is all to do with the `purity' of those involved. And thus the persecution of those deemed unpure. It led to bloodletting between the followers of Mohammed. It has been kept alive by followers in places such as Saudi Arabia and led to the development of Al-Quaieda as its terror franchise. Any democratic pretentions are only allowed if such a movement can benefit in terms of its dominance and self awarded liscence to persecute others. An Inqusition if you like.

 

[pilchardman]

Where has anybody here expressed any specifically anti-Muslim sentiments (as opposed to generally anti-religious)?

That's not the point, mate. Life of Brian is funny, but Satanic Verses is Islamophobia.

 

[vimto]

It's Christmas time

There's no need to feel afraid

 

[vimto]

Anybody got a fag?

 

[vimto]

Sorry, coming in a bit late here. This is the basis of Wahabist thought, it is all to do with the `purity' of those involved. And thus the persecution of those deemed unpure. It led to bloodletting between the followers of Mohammed. It has been kept alive by followers in places such as Saudi Arabia and led to the development of Al-Quaieda as its terror franchise. Any democratic pretentions are only allowed if such a movement can benefit in terms of its dominance and self awarded liscence to persecute others. An Inqusition if you like.

Let freedom ring

 

[vimto]

Obviously it's got fuck all to do with oil and geopolitical/economic considerations as others would contend.

 

[vimto]

What happened to all the Stingers BTW?

 

[pilchardman]

Stingers? What are they?

 

[vimto]

Stingers? What are they?

The thingy things wot the CIA gave to the Taliban and such likes to bring down Soviet helicopters and fixed wing aircrafts in Afghanistan.

 

[pilchardman]

Ah, right. Coz the cops have these things wot stop cars they're chasing.

 

[vimto]

You put it on your shoulder and just point at the nearest thing in the sky that has a heat trail.

CIA gave shit loads of them Stingers to the people

 

[vimto]

Last I heard was that they had been offering shit loads of money to individuals/organisations for the return of the said weapons with no real success.

That's the free market for you I suppose

 

[pilchardman]

CIA gave shit loads of them Stingers to the people

Silly feckers.