Question Time tonight

Discussion in 'UK politics, current affairs and news' started by treelover, Mar 6, 2014.

  1. DownwardDog

    DownwardDog Riding a Brompton with a power meter.

    I wonder what their U75 name is.
  2. J Ed

    J Ed Follow Back Pro Expropriation

    Was it you then?
  3. stavros

    stavros Well-Known Member

    My immediate thought was that he was insinuating that those nine million ought to pay more.

    Once again, whilst there was mentions of turning the post-Brexit UK into a tax haven, there's never any mention with closing the loopholes the British overseas territories provide. Having partially excluded Vivienne Westwood for tax-dodging, you'd have thought Lucas could have raised it with a little hypocritical impunity.
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  4. mather

    mather Well-Known Member

    Which is why I think our overseas territories, what is left of them anyway, should have their self-governing status abolished and fully integrated into the UK proper, France does it with it's territories.
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  5. stavros

    stavros Well-Known Member

    Does it do so for all of them? My knowledge of the bits of France around the world is sketchy, to say the least.

    I think the Netherlands and Portugal, two other colonial powers, have their own havens. One of my thoughts, pre-referendum, was that these and others assorted EU nations could reach a common agreement on their overseas territories and the secrecy, money laundering and tax-dodging that goes on there.
  6. redsquirrel

    redsquirrel This Machine Kills Progressives

    I think so. I know the people on Guadeloupe had a vote in the recent presidential elections
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  7. snadge

    snadge metal alchemist

    Congolese may sway Belgium's vote one day.
  8. mather

    mather Well-Known Member

    Yes. All of the French overseas territories have representation in the French national assembly and senate and their respective populations are allowed to vote in the French presidential elections.

    Portugal no longer has any overseas territories with the exception of the Azores and Madeira but they are part of Portugal proper, the last one was Macau which was given back to China in 1999. I know the Dutch have a few territories in the Caribbean but I have no idea what their status is.

    No good reason why we can't sort out our own tax havens, we don't need the EU for that.
  9. stavros

    stavros Well-Known Member

    I guess what I was asking was regarding their autonomy regarding taxation. For example, I think Madeira has lower rates for some taxes than mainland Portugal, perhaps corporation and income tax.

    I'm totally with you on that. My thought was the whole would be greater than the sum of its parts, so that a company having their nice arrangements in Guernsey taken away from them couldn't then head south-west to Madeira instead to exploit their loopholes.
  10. mather

    mather Well-Known Member

    I'm assuming that French law applies to it's overseas territories as it does to France proper as France has always had a strong centralising tradition but I don't know for certain. As for Portugal, I really don't know.

    What about all those tax havens that are outside of EU jurisdiction? Regardless of what others do we (Britain) should just get rid of them.
  11. stavros

    stavros Well-Known Member

    Like Switzerland, Monaco, Delaware, etc? I'm not sure if anything can be done specifically on those, aside from imposing trading tariffs on money and assets coming or going there to make up the shortfall. We, as a collective of those in the countries who lose out, ought to question why they exist, and whether it's fair.

    I agree Britain should remedy its own taxation anomalies. If was going to happen at any time recently you suspect it may have been 1997-2005 - strong Labour majority - but as far as I know nothing was done.
  12. hash tag

    hash tag Pedicabo omnes

  13. phillm

    phillm Trolling through Life (TM)

    That link's broken when I tried it - here's another voice on the same thing.

    Another Antisemitic Voice
  14. Combustible

    Combustible Well-Known Member

    That blog is clearly right on a lot of things but the part about Israel and the IHRA does not make a lot of sense. Apparently the fact that 93% of Jews see the state of Israel as part of their identity makes it an intrinsic part of their identity (how can it be intrinsic?), and therefore saying that Israel is a racist endeavour is calling 93% of Jews racist and is akin to saying they are the enemy. But that is just the nature of nationalism isn't it? Nearly all nationalist and/or imperialist ventures (including those which would be described as racist) are supported by the vast majority of the population of the country instigating it. The reasons may be explicitly racist or maybe based various other nationalist myths and arguments. It doesn't mean that by criticising the venture you are calling the whole population of that country are racists or the enemy.
  15. doodlelogic

    doodlelogic arbitrary message here

    9 million at the bottom should pay more tax? Well counter-intuitive but probably would work out better. Constant raising of personal allowance doesn't help people who 'fall out of tax' nearly as much in cash terms - helps those on 40% tax rate at least twice as much. It's a trap the Tories use to say how they are helping those at the bottom and it's just not true. If you look at what that's been traded off for like tax credit cuts, universal credit bollocks, ATOS & DWP chaos on disability benefits & 20% VAT.
  16. doodlelogic

    doodlelogic arbitrary message here

  17. stavros

    stavros Well-Known Member

    Presumably QT starts up again soon.
  18. tim

    tim Well-Known Member

    Yes, because we'd look a lot cleaner, even though in reality much global money laundering could still be coordinated in London.
  19. Sasaferrato

    Sasaferrato Thank fuck it's not over.

    Of course Israel is part of Jewish identity, read the Bible, it tells you where on the earth that Jews 'come from'.
  20. stavros

    stavros Well-Known Member

    It starts again this coming Thursday. Will Self is the only announced guest so far.
  21. teqniq

    teqniq DisMembered

    . wrong thread lol
  22. Ax^

    Ax^ Silly Rabbit

    shouting at the telly season returns

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  23. The Flying Pig

    The Flying Pig Well-Known Member

    Does anyone bother watching that pile of trash anymore.
  24. stavros

    stavros Well-Known Member

    I think might be for the chance to feel self-righteous, finding the errors in what's said by members of the panel.

    For example, Julia Hartley-Brewer last night stated that "52% of the country voted to leave", which is not true. 37.5% of those eligible to vote voted to leave the EU, more than voted to remain. Furthermore, stating that "A majority voted to control immigration" is a downright lie, as such a question wasn't on the ballot paper.

    I do think, though, that Any Questions is slightly more refined (slightly).
  25. Ax^

    Ax^ Silly Rabbit

    just a shame the current goverment, is not taking the fact of the subject was not mentioned on the ballot paper

    to being a indication of why people voted to leave

    may trying to appear strong on controlling immigration does make me giggle
  26. mather

    mather Well-Known Member

    Especially as the Tories failed to meet the cuts to the levels of immigration that they themselves set when May was Home Secretary.
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  27. stavros

    stavros Well-Known Member

    Yes, including those non-EU migrants, over whom they did have "control".
  28. Ax^

    Ax^ Silly Rabbit

    BBC seems to be returning to its loaded audience standard form

    Corybin is terrible and will bankrupt the country

    but Brexit is fine

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  29. Ax^

    Ax^ Silly Rabbit

    what happened to peter hitchens

  30. Ax^

    Ax^ Silly Rabbit

    now that is an impressive combover

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