Question Time - 10/04/2014

[weepiper]

Billy Bragg isn't left-wing, he openly says that class doesn't matter. He came to that conclusion after becoming a millionaire. Read more about his terrible behaviour here.

He is just a businessman and his product is sold to left leaning audiences and to the mainstream media who believe he represents the left. He is a fraud.

Isn't it funny how the ones who most stridently think class doesn't matter are the ones who are doing quite nicely out of the system.

 

[J Ed]

He's described as a left-wing activist on Wikipedia. The lyrics in socialist anthems such as The Internationale and The Red flag show as much. He supported the Miner's Strike, supports Welsh and Scottish independence (Plaid Cymru and SNP both left-wing parties), supported the Occupy movement, boycotted the Sun for their Hillsborough coverage, is an anti-fascist and gay rights campaigner... He supports an array of left-wing movements and his connections with far-left Russian political figures as well-documented also.

The Internationale is the Russian national anthem, do you think that everyone who sings it is a socialist? He sings about all sorts of other shit that he doesn't believe in.

The Miners' Strike was a long time ago, he has gone way to the right since then.

Welsh and Scottish Independence isn't an inherently left-wing position, the SNP has a fair number of right-wingers.

Maybe you'd like to explain to us how a millionaire singer who owns a mansion and says that class no longer matters is left-wing.

 

[butchersapron]

The Internationale is the Russian national anthem, do you think that everyone who sings it is a socialist? He sings about all sorts of other shit that he doesn't believe in..

Not for some time - and was a disgrace when sung.

 

[J Ed]

Not for some time - and was a disgrace when sung.

They have a Putinised version of it now

 

[rekil]

 

[DotCommunist]

New England is ok when its not him singing it. Kirsty? Tune anyway.

 

[rekil]

The PD twitter machine operator asked him to write a tune called 'Class Politics Is So Last Century' but got ignored. I think he's fed up with that avenue of gags.

 

[DotCommunist]

the glory days.

 

[Greebo]

New England is ok when its not him singing it. Kirsty? Tune anyway.

Agreed - he didn't so much sing it as bellow it. OTOH if he'd tried using a softer voice, it might not have sounded right with those lyrics. The same goes for "between the wars".

 

[treelover]

The Bard is speaking now and he is quite angry.

 

[Mr Moose]

Are we sure this isn't a piss take?

I think he's made his views clear over a long period of time that class is very important.

He's got a helluva house granted.

 

[J Ed]

The Bard is speaking now and he is quite angry.

Marketing

 

[treelover]

are you sure J?

 

[editor]

I'm already wound up.

 

[Orang Utan]

I'm already wound up.

Why do you people watch it then?

 

[Balbi]

Sajid Javid has been twice promoted due to someone just up the ladder fucking up, rather than on his own merits. He's an Osborne favourite as well. Creepy fucker.

 

[Mr Moose]

Leader of the Welsh Lib Dems? Where do they have their conference, in a bedsit?

 

[Mr Moose]

Harriet. Strolling on like the war never happened.

 

[Greebo]

Why do you people watch it then?

The vain hope that this week will be better.

 

[Mr Moose]

God this Sorrell bloke is tedious.

 

[Mr Moose]

Ah houses are cheap according to Sajid. Perhaps he should stick to culture. Oh he knows fuck all about that either.

 

[Orang Utan]

The vain hope that this week will be better.

a parade of playing to the gallery of ignorants?

 

[editor]

Why do you people watch it then?

Sometimes I want to hear arguments that I find unpalatable as a means to challenge and frame my own arguments.

 

[editor]

I hate everyone on that fucking panel.

 

[Orang Utan]

Sometimes I want to hear arguments that I find unpalatable as a means to challenge and frame my own arguments.

You'll get much better ones elsewhere. Like here.

 

[JimW]

Harman explains use value vs exchange value

 

[Greebo]

a parade of playing to the gallery of ignorants?

Perhaps I am a little overoptimistic.

 

[Orang Utan]

Perhaps I am a little overoptimistic.

The Muppet Show is much better entertainment

 

[FridgeMagnet]

They all love building houses don't they? Houses which are going to be sold off on the open market at market rates.

 

[Mr Moose]

Mansion tax? That'll hit anyone on the panel with a massive gaff.

Billy looking worried?