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PS3 and variants

I wouldn't mind getting a PS3 sometime soon, mainly for Blu-Ray though I'd probably get Play TV n'all and use it as a PVR. But all the decent deals are bundles; seen some good ones, £290 with Little Big Planet, Motorstorm Pacific Rift and Resistance 2 - ie not games I've got already for the 360 - but I'd much rather get just the console for about £200.

Not bothered about drive size as I'd whack a 320gb in it.
 
I read somewhere the ps3 is no costing 35% less to make. If true and passed onto the consumer Sony could do a £100 price drop! And break the all important £200 price point...
 
It desperately needs to drop in price if it has any hope in beating the 360 to become this generation's winner. I obviously don't include the Wii in that, as I see it as nothing more than a Gamecube 1.5 with good PR.
 
Jambooboo said:
It desperately needs to drop in price if it has any hope in beating the 360 to become this generation's winner. I obviously don't include the Wii in that, as I see it as nothing more than a Gamecube 1.5 with good PR.
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Heh it's got no chance of winning this generations console war, the Wii has won that hands down and it's not likely to change...but a price change to the phycologically important £199 price point would definitly boost sales.

There's a rumoured drop coming in March and with the news of the PS3 being cheaper to make perhaps Sony might do the dramatic to take a real shot at a second place this generation?
 
This could perhaps have been a new thread, but seeing as it's related to my PS3 I'll put it here.

I've replaced my whole stereo system (CD, tape deck, tuner and DVD) with the PS3 as it can run music files on my PC and internet radio through the media server (Cheers, Lazy Llama, TVersity worked straight out of the box!), and of course plays CDs. This runs through my old amp (an a/v job, donated after my Marantz died) and a single pair of speakers.

I have a problem with the connections, however. The only outputs the PS3 has are HDMI, optical and Sony-proprietary, which has composite leads which can be plugged into a SCART converter (aside from 2 USB sockets, which I assume can be adapted for various uses).

As I don't have a HDMI TV I use the Sony connection. I've run the two audio leads into my A/V amp, and left the video composite in the SCART block in the back of the TV. Hence, there's no sound through the TV from the PS3. Although not ideal, this isn't too much of a problem.

I am slightly concerned by audio quality, however, especially in terms of taking advantage of the capabilities of the amp when watching DVDs. My amp has no optical input, which would be the only other alternative. Is it worth getting a new amp with such an optical input? Would I see any difference, perhaps related to the surround sound capabilities of the amp (it's a pretty dated Denon AVC 1530 with Prologic, whatever that is)?
 
Kid_Eternity said:
Heh it's got no chance of winning this generations console war, the Wii has won that hands down and it's not likely to change...
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I don't really count the Wii in the console wars. It's more of a 'virtual boardgame' than a console to my mind. I appreciate this isn't actually the case, but I still think of the console war as the Xbox vs the PS3.

As an aside, Mattie, you don't need a seperate remote to watch DVDs on the Xbox 360 :D You're thinking of the Xbox 1.
 
ChrisFilter said:
I don't really count the Wii in the console wars. It's more of a 'virtual boardgame' than a console to my mind. I appreciate this isn't actually the case, but I still think of the console war as the Xbox vs the PS3.

As an aside, Mattie, you don't need a seperate remote to watch DVDs on the Xbox 360 :D You're thinking of the Xbox 1.
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Glad MS came to their senses, that really did seem snidey when I bought my old XBox.
 
Yeah, the cynical fuckers.

Probably a stupid question, but can you buy games online with the PS3? I.E. is there an equivalent to Xbox Live Arcade?
 
ChrisFilter said:
I don't really count the Wii in the console wars. It's more of a 'virtual boardgame' than a console to my mind. I appreciate this isn't actually the case, but I still think of the console war as the Xbox vs the PS3.
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Indeed, the Wii has tapped new markets for the casual gamer. I don't think its that uncommon to own a Wii and PS3/Xbox.
 
ChrisFilter said:
Yeah, the cynical fuckers.

Probably a stupid question, but can you buy games online with the PS3? I.E. is there an equivalent to Xbox Live Arcade?
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Yep, but I haven't set it up. For some reason I prefer physical discs.

I think the PS3 variant of Live is pretty rudimentary at present, they've spent more time discussing what it'll do than actually making it do anything, but it will be free (the on-line gaming/media part, not the shop!)
 
mattie said:
Yep, but I haven't set it up. For some reason I prefer physical discs.

I think the PS3 variant of Live is pretty rudimentary at present, they've spent more time discussing what it'll do than actually making it do anything, but it will be free (the on-line gaming/media part, not the shop!)
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The, the Home thing made it into some round-up of the year's biggest flops. Assume you can still access things without the Second Life style interface though.

Anyway, the PS3, a nice bit of kit.
 
They've just relaucned PSHome, and it's OK so far - quite amusing actually, lots of fun moving furniture around, wandering around yakking to completely random types...
 
mattie said:
As I don't have a HDMI TV I use the Sony connection. I've run the two audio leads into my A/V amp, and left the video composite in the SCART block in the back of the TV. Hence, there's no sound through the TV from the PS3. Although not ideal, this isn't too much of a problem.

I am slightly concerned by audio quality, however, especially in terms of taking advantage of the capabilities of the amp when watching DVDs. My amp has no optical input, which would be the only other alternative. Is it worth getting a new amp with such an optical input? Would I see any difference, perhaps related to the surround sound capabilities of the amp (it's a pretty dated Denon AVC 1530 with Prologic, whatever that is)?
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I've been through similar issues, I have an HDMI TV but non-HDMI digital Yamaha amp. I've taken the optical feed from the PS3 through my amp and that works very nicely. It's primarily an improvement for surround sound though, so your single pair of speakers might not show the difference as much.

I don't put any sound out through the TV now. Watching TV through my Topfield box, I have an optical output to the amp too.

Looking at Richer Sounds, quite a lot of the low-end HDMI-enabled amps don't actually handle multi-channel audio through the HDMI connection anyway and given that you don't have an HDMI TV a (second-hand?) digital AV amp would be fine.

Even if you don't go for a new amp you may like to check out getting a full RGB SCART cable for the video as it's a much better picture than the one you'll get from the composite connection. You can get them with RCA audio output as well.
 
Lazy Llama said:
I've been through similar issues, I have an HDMI TV but non-HDMI digital Yamaha amp. I've taken the optical feed from the PS3 through my amp and that works very nicely. It's primarily an improvement for surround sound though, so your single pair of speakers might not show the difference as much.

I don't put any sound out through the TV now. Watching TV through my Topfield box, I have an optical output to the amp too.

Looking at Richer Sounds, quite a lot of the low-end HDMI-enabled amps don't actually handle multi-channel audio through the HDMI connection anyway and given that you don't have an HDMI TV a (second-hand?) digital AV amp would be fine.

Even if you don't go for a new amp you may like to check out getting a full RGB SCART cable for the video as it's a much better picture than the one you'll get from the composite connection. You can get them with RCA audio output as well.
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Cheers again, six quid at play.com with free postage!

http://www.play.com/Games/PlayStation3/4-/3321382/Joytech-Fusion-RGB-Scart-Cable/Product.html

Will keep an eye on eBay or similar for a digital amp, but budgets may mean it waits for a few months - I'm expecting our TV to die soon at which point I might go HD, but that won't be cheap! Seeing as the PS3 connection will be the main input for any music (CD or streamed) I'd like to get something that takes advantage of the optical out, but will still be able to use the new SCART for the video.
 
Fuck, I was really hoping I could've got a PS3 at Gatwick when flying home from the UK. But all sold out. (They're still 399 euros over here in Holland), might have to buy from Amazon.co.uk to take advantage of the strong Euro...
 
ChrisFilter said:
I don't really count the Wii in the console wars. It's more of a 'virtual boardgame' than a console to my mind. I appreciate this isn't actually the case, but I still think of the console war as the Xbox vs the PS3.

As an aside, Mattie, you don't need a seperate remote to watch DVDs on the Xbox 360 :D You're thinking of the Xbox 1.
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I count it and I'm sure both Sony and MS would love to agree with you and ignore the massive sales the Wii is managing!
 
I think i'd happily swap my 360 for a ps3; M$ are just money grubbing cunts who overcharge for everything associated with it.
 
That's still £28 more than nothing.

Not to mention the crap you have to pay for from the marketplace and that downloadable content.

Plus M$ customer service is the worst shit i have ever experienced while holding a telephone to my ear.
 
Awesome Wells said:
Sony may well not be, but I'm fed up with M$. It can't be any worse.
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I can't speak for the PS3

but the xbox360 is quality all round! value, the lot!
as is xbox live


I do however see what you mean when it comes to this vastly overpriced peripheral
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