Protesting Trump?

Discussion in 'UK politics, current affairs and news' started by FabricLiveBaby!, Jul 13, 2018.

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Protesting against Trump:

  1. Good idea.

    29 vote(s)
    60.4%
  2. Bad idea

    1 vote(s)
    2.1%
  3. Both

    10 vote(s)
    20.8%
  4. Cheesy peas

    8 vote(s)
    16.7%
  1. FabricLiveBaby!

    FabricLiveBaby! /wɜːst tɜːf ɒn ɜːθ/

    Stupid idea or not? Is it effective? Does it matter? Will it do any thing positive? Why?

    Can we talk about it?

    Yet to make up my mind on it.
     
  2. cupid_stunt

    cupid_stunt Dyslexic King Cnut the Great.

    Have you missed all the other threads on this?

    ETA: pogofish seems to have hacked my account. ;)
     
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  3. J Ed

    J Ed Follow Back Pro Expropriation

    Good idea, not just against Trump but necessarily also against what he represents and what made him and others like him inevitable and that includes many of his most vocal opponents.
     
  4. FabricLiveBaby!

    FabricLiveBaby! /wɜːst tɜːf ɒn ɜːθ/

    Yes.

    But also this is specifically about protesting trump (an elected official) and by extention perhaps any other elected figure. The backslashes that might ensure, the oxygen of publicity, etc etc etc.

    I don't want it to get bogged down with hand holding news. It has a specific remit.
     
  5. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    Why isn't this poll publick?
     
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  6. FabricLiveBaby!

    FabricLiveBaby! /wɜːst tɜːf ɒn ɜːθ/

    cuz I fucked it up, innit.

    Urbaning from pub. What do you expect.


    What do you think Pickman's model?
     
  7. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    Tag me or quote me, if you do both one is superfluous
     
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  8. FabricLiveBaby!

    FabricLiveBaby! /wɜːst tɜːf ɒn ɜːθ/

    What's your opinion you bloody pedantic bastard?
     
  9. spanglechick

    spanglechick High Empress of Dressing Up

    I find it bloody hilarious to think of how irritated he must be. All good.
     
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  10. FabricLiveBaby!

    FabricLiveBaby! /wɜːst tɜːf ɒn ɜːθ/

    Who? Pickman's model?

    :D
     
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  11. 2hats

    2hats

    Any activity which has even the slimmest chance of perturbing his fragile narcissist’s ego is fine and dandy with me.
     
  12. FabricLiveBaby!

    FabricLiveBaby! /wɜːst tɜːf ɒn ɜːθ/

    I think it's a more of a stupid idea than not to protest Trump.

    I'll show mu working tomorrow. But it's everything to do with h media attention in the current climatic of "fake news".
     
  13. Bahnhof Strasse

    Bahnhof Strasse Free the Sepsis Six!

    I was sent a vid from a punter who’s office is at Oxford Circus, lots of people with placards, for many this is the first thing that has riled them enough to take to the streets. Which can be seen as good, but is quite sad that they haven’t felt motivated about any other matter previously. And as for Trump, he’s a master of doublethink and will take the crowds as evidence of his popularity.
     
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  14. FridgeMagnet

    FridgeMagnet Administrator

    There are at least two threads on this topic, not just generally about protests but specifically these protests against Trump.
     
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  15. magneze

    magneze mnemonic beef

    Last in then? :thumbs:
     
  16. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    *title edited by request
     
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  17. A380

    A380 How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?

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  18. FabricLiveBaby!

    FabricLiveBaby! /wɜːst tɜːf ɒn ɜːθ/

    That focuses on the individual though. How will that translate to the collective that voted for him? Will it garner sympathy? Or will it alienate them further, cementing their opinion?

    It's one thing to protest against a movement or political position or idea, and quite another to protest an individual.

    And I think it translates differently, and more importantly, counter productively politically speaking.

    I'm. About 7 vodkas down! Did that make sense?
     
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  19. Smokeandsteam

    Smokeandsteam Well-Known Member

    Bad idea. For two reasons:

    1. Any demo attended by Nick Clegg and Ed Miliband and sanctioned by Sadiq Khan has any progressive value or agency emptied out of it. Must be a few ‘showbiz’ types there as well demonstrating their radical cutting edge

    2. Other than making marchers feel good about themselves - and prove that their ‘rage’ is highly selective - what is the demand of the protestors?
     
  20. A380

    A380 How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?

    It achieved its aim. People who organised, funded and facilitated this protest didn’t want the orange tosser to come to London. He knew of the protest and as a direct result chose not to come to our fair city. It’s a win.

    I appreciate that there is a view that says to protest for anything other than an immediate transition to world communism immediately is a sell out. But frankly that’s a bollocks view.
     
  21. A380

    A380 How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?

    The demand was the Orange freak didn’t come to London. It’s not that hard to find that out. The result was the orange freak didn’t come to London.

    What’s your better ideas? Handing out three page 4000 word single spaced leaflets outside the Arndale on a rainy Saturday?
     
  22. Smokeandsteam

    Smokeandsteam Well-Known Member

    I’ve spent the day representing a fellow worker facing the sack on a trumped up (note the pun) charge by his depot manager. He’s kept his job. I did it on my own holiday as we don’t have recognition there.

    You spent the day in London with a balloon and Clegg ensuring Trump does his work elsewhere.

    We all choose where our energies are best spent.
     
  23. sunnysidedown

    sunnysidedown Well-Known Member

    communism. nothing short of a polite request.
     
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  24. treelover

    treelover Well-Known Member

    It is the the ascendancy of liberal identity politics, facilitated with the resources of groups like the SWP(they still have lots of money) trustafarians, etc. A major industrial dispute on the scale of the Miners Strike getting support like they did , is now very unlikely or even on the scale of the 400,000 on the TUC anti-austerity march in 2012..
     
  25. FabricLiveBaby!

    FabricLiveBaby! /wɜːst tɜːf ɒn ɜːθ/

    Can you explain this in more detail? I know it would take a time but I can see where you're coming from. Are protests now more about individual agreement with political positions rather than solidaty with working classes?


    (10 vodkas down)
     
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  26. treelover

    treelover Well-Known Member

    fantastic.
     
  27. Ax^

    Ax^ Silly Rabbit

    fair play to the people who went today.. :)


    *shakes fist at being able to get the day off*

    :mad:
     
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  28. Sunset Tree

    Sunset Tree Well-Known Member

    So what if he did come to London, what is different?
     
  29. A380

    A380 How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?

    The air was cleaner, the sun shone more brightly, a nightingal sang..

    And the president of the United States couldn’t go where he wanted.,
     
  30. Santino

    Santino lovelier than lovely

    I heard that he saw how big the protest was and now he's resigned and installed world communism.
     
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