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wobbly
I think he means pro choice but it sounds better (for him) to say pro-abortion!!!!
i know that, i'm just calling him on his bullshit
Protect A Woman's Right to Choose
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i know that, i'm just calling him on his bullshit
zenie
>^^<
But you'd get laughed at because that's not what it's called, didn't you get the memo?
innit
c'mon, little life giver
The outcome is the termination of a pregnancy.
Louis MacNeice
Autumn Journalist
89% of abortions are carried out prior to 13 weeks. The very small number of late abortions are being used by those opposed to abortion per se as way of pushing debate and legislation in the direction they want (against a woman's right to choose). Late abortions are a non-issue; the provision of good quality, appropriate, sustained support for families is.
Cheers - Louis MacNeice
Cheers - Louis MacNeice
lights.out.london
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And the act of terminating a life is not abhorrent? Bizarre.
_angel_
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Are you denying that women do get pregnant after being raped?
zenie
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they're valid reasons as were mine.
innit said:
misogyny works in funny ways ey?
Thora
Differently Ethical
24 weeks is a long time, but the way I see it no one is thinking, "oh, I won't have an abortion at 8 weeks - I'll wait til 24". If you find yourself in the position of being 24 weeks pregnant and needing an abortion, I'm guessing you have a pretty good reason. Rather than reducing the limit, we should be making it easier for women (especially young or vulnerable women) to access abortions with as little fuss as early as possible.
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the act of forcing a woman to continue being assaulted daily, to damage her health and possibly kill her is far worse.
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_angel_
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I definitely agree with the latter part. I do think that once someone's got to 24 weeks they might as well carry on and have the baby adopted.
lights.out.london
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Ah. So soon into the thread and already we're hearing the scrapping of the bottom of the barrel as the apologists scrabble for something new to say.
Anything new to say?
No. Thought not.
If anyone does come up with a coherent argument for abortion, which also deals with the right to life and the rights of an unborn child, I'm all ears.
Thank you for reading.
Anything new to say?
No. Thought not.
If anyone does come up with a coherent argument for abortion, which also deals with the right to life and the rights of an unborn child, I'm all ears.
Thank you for reading.
spring-peeper
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If I was raped, I'd be testing for pregnancy at the earliest possible time and would not wait 24 weeks before making my decision to keep or abort.
(This is about the lenght of time not the right to abortion, right?)
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wobbly
Ah. So soon into the thread and already we're hearing the scrapping of the bottom of the barrel as the apologists scrabble for something new to say.
Anything new to say?
No. Thought not.
If anyone does come up with a coherent argument for abortion, which also deals with the right to life and the rights of an unborn child, I'm all ears.
Thank you for reading.
only drivel i see here is yours.
you not only have nothing new to say, you appear to have nothing to say
_angel_
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Ah. So soon into the thread and already we're hearing the scrapping of the bottom of the barrel as the apologists scrabble for something new to say.
Anything new to say?
No. Thought not.
If anyone does come up with a coherent argument for abortion, which also deals with the right to life and the rights of an unborn child, I'm all ears.
Thank you for reading.
You haven't explained how it's okay to force a woman- or girl, possibly very young- to go thru a pregnancy as a result of a rape.
ethel
Well-Known Member
a foetus or an embyro is not a child.
innit
c'mon, little life giver
If anyone does come up with a coherent argument for abortion, which also deals with the right to life and the rights of an unborn child, I'm all ears.
Thank you for reading.
The right to life is a human right, pertaining to *people* not foetuses.
I imagine the vast amount of women having abortions are actually thinking about the interests of a potential child and the life it might have.
lights.out.london
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**yawns**
Everything collapses into the rape/assault/mentally handicapped-disabled child in the womb routine, doesn't it?
Simple questions - where or how does a 'right' consist in? And where or how does a woman's 'right' [or 'rights'] have precedent over a child's?
ethel
Well-Known Member
even in cases where the baby is severely disabled and will die at or shortly after birth? or where to continue the pregnancy could case the woman to die?
baldrick
hmmmmm
What kind of new do you want?Ah. So soon into the thread and already we're hearing the scrapping of the bottom of the barrel as the apologists scrabble for something new to say.
Anything new to say?
No. Thought not.
If anyone does come up with a coherent argument for abortion, which also deals with the right to life and the rights of an unborn child, I'm all ears.
Thank you for reading.
I could tell you how it feels to be pregnant with a baby that I didn't want but i suspect your empathy for a woman in my position is very limited.
It comes to something when killing your own baby is the least worst option
so take your sanctimony elsewhere, please.
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a significant number of women who have abortions already have carried a pregnancy to term.
Thora
Differently Ethical
A woman has a right not to have anything in her womb that she doesn't want there imo.
ethel
Well-Known Member
even if you were a teeenager and were being sexually abused?
zenie
>^^<
well, you might not know you'd been raped tbh.
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he can't. My guess is that an ex of his has had a termination in the past and that's why he feels so emotive about it, but it's not his body and until that foetus is born it is the property of the woman as has been found in courts of law all over the world.
_angel_
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That's a medical reason, then, not a 'social' one.
Louis MacNeice
Autumn Journalist
Ah. So soon into the thread and already we're hearing the scrapping of the bottom of the barrel as the apologists scrabble for something new to say.
Anything new to say?
No. Thought not.
If anyone does come up with a coherent argument for abortion, which also deals with the right to life and the rights of an unborn child, I'm all ears.
Thank you for reading.
Explain what exactly this right to life is and what it is attached to. You might like to consider that some estimates place the 'natural' abortion rate as high as 60%; what about right to life in those cases?
spring-peeper
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Sexually abused girls don't know they are preggers until they are over 20 weeks???
lights.out.london
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Because I disagree with you, I'm necessarily sanctimonious or misognistic?
ethel
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lightsoutlondon> okay, say abortion was outlawed, as it is in ireland. women would have to travel, therefore the poorest would be unable to obtain an abortion. women would go back to the old illegal back street abortion or the hot bath and gin method. do you think that by making abortion illegal, it will stop?
lights.out.london
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I think you've missed the point.
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