Prose style of Conspiracy Theories

[JWH]

There's not a bad example over here: http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=9054593&postcount=2

Good old Independent, it gets those pre-McBride plants in while it can. A 23 year old David Cameron went to South Africa! Funded by Big Brother's Derek!!1

Its especially valuable to see Peter "Obama Moment" Hain give the benefit of his opinion, which of course has not lost any of its effectiveness despite voting for the Iraq war, ID Cards, top-up fees, or paying his mum to run his affairs. He wouldnt have gone to SA at the behest of someone who went on BB!!!

Vote Labour.

 

[Dillinger4]

Youtube is the ultimate reliable source. The more sensational the video is, the more true it is.

 

[Diamond]

Youtrue?

 

[Badger Kitten]

Wootube, for videos containing lots of Twoof and Woo.

 

[fela fan]

Wootube, for videos containing lots of Twoof and Woo.

And of course there's a prose style for those who like to stand above all those pesky conspiracy theorists, for those who consider themselves somewhat more relevant than those who subscribe to 'conspiracy theories'.

Like here for example.

In fact, based on contributions to urban, there is a unique prose style for those who deride anybody they feel have succumbed to CTerism. Their posts are often littered with the lexicon of anti-conspiracy theorist people.

A lot of 'w's and 'r's get added into words where there ought not to be.

Then there's the wonderful put down whereby CT people are supposed to be getting in the way of much more, er, substantial efforts by the 'real' commentators on political events.

Many people here on urban seem to be obsessed by 'conspiracy theories'.

Just looks like pseudo-intellectualism on the part of those left-leaning guardians of life-as-we-should-all-live-it.

As an aside, i wonder if the english/urban lexicon will one day encompass conspiracy 'practices'...

Because wherever you have politicians, you're always going to have conspiracies, despite what certain urban posters rattle on about.

Bloody egos...

 

[Dillinger4]

hahahaha.

sorry.

but hahahaha.

 

[Dillinger4]

You are always good for a laugh fela.

 

[Badger Kitten]

And of course there's a prose style for those who like to stand above all those pesky conspiracy theorists

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Everyone who doesn't buy conspiracy theories, they all the same prose style? Really? This is fascinating - conspiracy theorists think everything written by a non CT believer is the same? Can't tell the difference between Dickens and Dostoevsky? Truly, a CT-er wants to believe! Makes me think of a religious zealot who cares only about whether literature or media is 'godly' or 'sinful'

Then there's the wonderful put down whereby CT people are supposed to be getting in the way of much more, er, substantial efforts by the 'real' commentators on political events.

This is an odd idea - how are 'CT people' 'getting in the way' of 'the real commentators on political events'? Are they filling up the internet with bibble? Taking over the columns in the broadsheets? Staging a sit-in at the BBC News 24 studio?

Many people here on urban seem to be obsessed by 'conspiracy theories'.

I don't think so, though there are quite a few here who enjoy laughing at them, and the FAQs give the game away that this is not a Truth-touting site...maybe if you are obsessed with conspiracy theories, or interested in them, say, you'd feel particularly sensitive to threads mocking them and their credulous propagators...

Just looks like pseudo-intellectualism on the part of those left-leaning guardians of life-as-we-should-all-live-it.

But I don't think laughing at woo-woo made-up stories, or challenging them is pseudo-intellectual. Caring about truth and laughing at bollocks isn't an intellectual position. Small children care about truth and laugh at bollocks, as do some of the best minds on the planet.

Because wherever you have politicians, you're always going to have conspiracies, despite what certain urban posters rattle on about.

Bloody egos..

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Dirty-dealing, deceit, naked ambition, ruthlessness are hardly surprising amongst people jostling for power. That doesn't make the world controlled by a shadowy NWO intent on microchipping humanity before the return of the AntiChrist is announced though.

 

[Dillinger4]

I will explain it, because you wont get it:

Read back over the thread. Read each post. Take in what they have said.

Then look at your own post. Examine it for comparison.

Do it a few times.

 

[DotCommunist]

Join the points of a pentagram together, and you have the Pentagon.

Those fuckers are keeping yog-shoggoth in the Pentagon, feeding it the soul energy of RTA fatalities. School shootings like Columbine are the treats they offer it when they want to co-erce him. 9/11 was a sacrifice GWB made in exchange for continued power.

The lliogir fed well that day.

 

[berniedicters]

Always nice to throw in a diagram or two.

Hexagrams, chalices, serpents, pyramids with eyes on the top, that sort of thing.

But stick them into a graphics programme and save them with JPEG compression levels turned RIGHT up. Especially if they contain lots of straight lines and text, which should be barely readable.

 

[fela fan]

You are always good for a laugh fela.

Tha's good man. Laughing is a medicine for life. Seriousness a disease.

Glad to oblige.

But, i'm sure you might be able to agree, if there's a prose for writing about conspiracy theories, then there naturally has to be one for those who like to disparage 'conspiracy theorists'. Either way, i've personally noticed such prose ever since 911 used to be discussed on urban.

 

[berniedicters]

Or ...

How do you explain how the ADL has so much power? Isn't it slightly STRANGE, that as well as the ADL having a disproportinate degree of influence on American society, so do AIPAC, while the Rothschilds remain one of the richest FAMILIES in history? What do all these HAVE in common? We're not allowed to say it, because you're not allowed to mention THE word "Jew" and "Jewish" at all because of Jew-controlled POLITICAL CORRECTNESS. And the JEWS have brainwashed our children's minds and the minds of thousands of ordinary citizens to believe THAT those who speak the TRUTH are "crazy" simply because of our supposed "random capitalisation OF words."

But you could soon FIND yourself in jail simply for reading this TEXT, under new "anti-semitism" legislation. But fear not; "for they are the Synagogue of Satan", and a "brood of vipers" condemned to HELL by Jesus Christ HIMSELF. However, we are not against the Jewish people; Jesus himself was a Jew, but we are against Talmudist infiltration of our society. We are against MEN with big NOSES, with names like "Rothschild" and lots of MONEY - and you don't have to be "anti-semitic", or a hater of Jews - in fact - we love true Jews who accept the LORD JESUS CHRIST - to hate them, too. But we're not allowed to mention men with BIG NOSES and lots of money any more, even though we just MENTIONED them. Why???? Work it out for yourselves.

Blimey, that's good! You had me fooled for a minute there

I especially liked the multiple question marks and gross over-use of capitalisation.

 

[fela fan]

Dirty-dealing, deceit, naked ambition, ruthlessness are hardly surprising amongst people jostling for power. That doesn't make the world controlled by a shadowy NWO intent on microchipping humanity before the return of the AntiChrist is announced though.

Ahh, so is this your understanding of what conspiracy theories are? Funny if so. If not, then tighten up on your posting bk.

 

[fela fan]

I will explain it, because you wont get it:

Read back over the thread. Read each post. Take in what they have said.

Then look at your own post. Examine it for comparison.

Do it a few times.

You really think i've got time and inclination to do that?! And in any case, i get exactly what i get. There's a prose for both sides of the coin. Bollocking on about me not 'getting it' is futile dillinger. Of course i get it. Just that what i get seems not to be what you get. Hey, that's bloody humans for you...

 

[fela fan]

Blimey, that's good! You had me fooled for a minute there

I especially liked the multiple question marks and gross over-use of capitalisation.

But i wonder if frogwoman's example (nicely done i agree) is just an imagined effort. If not, any models from which it was based would be good to see.

 

[Mrs Magpie]

There is a good example on the Swine flu thread. Someone asks for a source to an assertion that

There are enough stocks of the drugs for the queen and family, politicians some of the armed forces, health workers and the police. I remember whne there was the bird flu flap and the UN pointed out that the UK has one of the lowest stockpiles of tamiflu...

and then posts

And who the fuck are you apart from some one to lazy to do there own research like

"RAF air drop tamiflu to nuclear sub at sea read all about it"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7548593.stm

The BBC news link posted does not actually back up the assertion at all. I read it three times, slowly, in case I'd missed something.

 

[fela fan]

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Everyone who doesn't buy conspiracy theories, they all the same prose style? Really? This is fascinating - conspiracy theorists think everything written by a non CT believer is the same? Can't tell the difference between Dickens and Dostoevsky? Truly, a CT-er wants to believe! Makes me think of a religious zealot who cares only about whether literature or media is 'godly' or 'sinful'

How can you be writing this? If there's a style of prose for conspiracy theories, then why the hell not one for those who write against them?

You and many others think that CTers think this or that, and remain certain about their ideas. Well, my experience here on urban shows me that the most certain people are those who rail on about CTers.

This thread just confirms it.

But maybe i'm wrong. Maybe CTers do want to believe as you say. Whereas those who knock them don't actually believe, they just KNOW.

 

[DotCommunist]

How can you be writing this? If there's a style of prose for conspiracy theories, then why the hell not one for those who write against them?

An identifiable house style, or a recognizable written trend does not require an opposite number. You are attempting to establish a dichotomy that doesn't exist

 

[fela fan]

An identifiable house style, or a recognizable written trend does not require an opposite number. You are attempting to establish a dichotomy that doesn't exist

That's funny. I know it exists, i've seen it countless times here on urban.

But your first point is fine by me.

 

[Badger Kitten]

And of course there's a prose style for those who like to stand above all those pesky conspiracy theorists, for those who consider themselves somewhat more relevant than those who subscribe to 'conspiracy theories'

I took 'those who like to stand above all those pesky conspiracy theorists' to mean 'people who don't believe in conspiracy theories'. I mean, you either believe in them or you don't, and most people don't believe in tall tales.

I did think that 'those who consider themselves somewhat more relevant than those who subscribe to 'conspiracy theories' was a bit strange and sad as a sentence in what it revealed about the author.

So, a CT-er perceives those who do not believe what he believes as 'liking to stand above' him and 'considering themselves more relevant' than him.

That reads as sad, angry, and slightly paranoid. The bitterness of the impotent outsider voice.

Hmmm, which can be dangerous. Good job the all-powerful NWO police state is taking sweeping steps to crush all independent-minded dissent and Truther questioning by, erm, employing crack internet squadrons of people prepared to mock conspiracy theories...

 

[berniedicters]

I think fela fan is clearly doing the OP an enormous favour by providing him with several excellent examples of not just the prose style, but the type of fallacious reasoning, and the slightly-aggressive put-you-on-the-back-foot questioning style beloved of the nuttier conspiraloon.

Read and learn!

 

[Dillinger4]

You really think i've got time and inclination to do that?! And in any case, i get exactly what i get. There's a prose for both sides of the coin. Bollocking on about me not 'getting it' is futile dillinger. Of course i get it. Just that what i get seems not to be what you get. Hey, that's bloody humans for you...

Heh.

You don't get it.



whooooosh.

 

[Dillinger4]

I think fela fan is clearly doing the OP an enormous favour by providing him with several excellent examples of not just the prose style, but the type of fallacious reasoning, and the slightly-aggressive put-you-on-the-back-foot questioning style beloved of the nuttier conspiraloon.

Read and learn!

Yes. It is almost breathtaking.

 

[DotCommunist]

That's funny. I know it exists, i've seen it countless times here on urban.

But your first point is fine by me.

deconstruction's of conspiracy theories have no established style. Conspiraloon and Troofer are simply mockery words thrown around, much like the CT terms like 'sheeple'


S'not an indicator of a prose style, unlike ropy conspiracy theory stuff that conforms to enough stylistic rules to be identifiable from the prose rather than the content.

What really annoys me is how little modern conspiracy theory draws on it's predecessor acid-driven mysto-numerology roots. That sort of written Illiminatus! style of erisian multi-layered madness is far more entertaining than the youtube video driven shallow CT we have today.

 

[fela fan]

I think fela fan is clearly doing the OP an enormous favour by providing him with several excellent examples of not just the prose style, but the type of fallacious reasoning, and the slightly-aggressive put-you-on-the-back-foot questioning style beloved of the nuttier conspiraloon.

Read and learn!

Interesting to read this.

I belong in neither camp. I just happen to have read countless posts on this topic over my time on urban. My comments here are a distillation of years of reading this stuff.

Fallacious reasoning is not me, so funny that you have managed to ascribe it to me agnesdavies.

As for 'slightly aggressive', well that'll be because i'm british. And the british are a highly aggressive group of people. So if i'm only 'slightly' then i'm doing a good job of tempering what's in my blood.

 

[Dillinger4]

deconstruction's of conspiracy theories have no established style. Conspiraloon and Troofer are simply mockery words thrown around, much like the CT terms like 'sheeple'


S'not an indicator of a prose style, unlike ropy conspiracy theory stuff that conforms to enough stylistic rules to be identifiable from the prose rather than the content.

What really annoys me is how little modern conspiracy theory draws on it's predecessor acid-driven mysto-numerology roots. That sort of written Illiminatus! style of erisian multi-layered madness is far more entertaining than the youtube video driven shallow CT we have today.

Oh you will enjoy Foucault's Pendulum. Oh yes.

 

[fela fan]

Yes. It is almost breathtaking.

Funny, i've seen some breathtaking stuff in recent days, and it really did take my breath away. Unlike this pseudo-serious bullshit.

I feel you're using writer's license here dillinger... get a perspective on your adjectives mate.

 

[Dillinger4]

Interesting to read this.

I belong in neither camp. I just happen to have read countless posts on this topic over my time on urban. My comments here are a distillation of years of reading this stuff.

Fallacious reasoning is not me, so funny that you have managed to ascribe it to me agnesdavies.

As for 'slightly aggressive', well that'll be because i'm british. And the british are a highly aggressive group of people. So if i'm only 'slightly' then i'm doing a good job of tempering what's in my blood.

Priceless.



Before you take that as a compliment, I mean priceless at the lower end.

 

[fela fan]

Heh.

You don't get it.



whooooosh.

And there was a dillinger, and there was a fela fan, and there was a medium of communication. And there was confusion between the boundaries of poster and post. I get everything mate. What you think i get or not is another story.