Dillinger4
Es gibt Zeit
Maybe it will knock some of the bullshit out of there.
Proposal Mayday 2009
- Thread starter The Black Hand
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Maybe it will knock some of the bullshit out of there.
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
This year it is the turn of Banbury Town Council.
http://www.banbury.gov.uk/infopage.asp?infoid=1545
The anarchists are staying in and washing their hair, I think.
Kenny Vermouth
Wankers
What a load of fucking rubbish, you want to get a life.
The Black Hand
Unclean
Why would anybody want to spend their bank holiday afternoon in some stuffy student union meeting room, listening to a bunch of lefty groupsicules talk at each other? The mind boggles
Well the graduates in your party are as impotent as they come, and your lot specialise in dullard meetings too.
But seriously, the point is practical class struggle, that creates practical initiatives in existing struggles and increasing our ability and power in thsoe struggles too. Only a sectarian could diss such an idea, and they do so cos they did not think of it nor control it. Just like the Leninists of old.
The Black Hand
Unclean
I suppose if I was a stupid cunt like you I could be content with being a stupid fuck with out any imagination.
Dillinger4
Es gibt Zeit
Dillinger4
Es gibt Zeit
heh
You must not forget that although 2008 is the 40th anniversary of 1968, 2009 is the 40th anniversary of 1969, but more significantly the 55th anniversary of 1954. I am sure you are aware of the obvious political significance of this but you should also be aware of numerological implications, for example with regard to the repeated digits.
When you are organising your Congress you should take this into account although in a level-headed manner; and also make judgements concerning the bi-annual repetition thereafter. Have you identified a suitable venue yet? I may be able to offer some advice which may be of assistance if you are looking for a location.
The Black Hand
Unclean
No, that depends on how much money we can rustle up....
Who knows anyway, at the minute there is nothing organised for Mayday 2009...
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
That's the key. Mayday.
The Black Hand
Unclean
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Can we lose this stupid fucking smiley please?
The Black Hand
Unclean
Or at least raise the mean IQ of the human race a few points.
That is a good point and i am all for disscussion but take a look around on these boards and its like some sort of closet daily mail cult ( in competition with durruti
) to many people on these boards are to sadly set in there ways to change
No comment
Class struggle is not something that happens on the initiative of lefty groups though. It occurs within working class people's day to day conflict with capital and the state.
audiotech
wav, aiff, mp3, ogg, flac
There is a difference between bowel movement and someone who lives with there head up there own arse but then you have got shit for brains
Now there's a thing.
Steve Booth
Bourgeois apologist
Mayday 2009 - good idea
Having some sort of event for Mayday 2009 is a really good idea. What sort of format could it take?
For comparison purposes, I'm thinking about the Mayday of around 2000 or so in London where there was a sort of conference organised somewhere up Holloway Road. There was also a march near Parliament where somebody sprayed slogans on the Cenotaph, and a grass mohican got put on Winston Churchill's statue.
I think the conference idea is probably better suited to the present movement than the march. It doesn't always have to be in London though, and it's a bit awkward for people to get to, a long journey down from Lancaster eg and quite costly in terms of money and time.
Somewhere in the Midlands like Birmingham or Nottingham might be a better venue and easier to get to for most of the people who don't live in London or the South of England.
Asssuming people did want the conference idea, I'd be interested to know what sort of subjects would people need to talk about? A while ago (November 2005) there was a really good weekend conference at Lancaster University where people discussed mostly stuff to do with the anti-globalisation movement - the 'give up activism' debate, the Tinkers' Bubble type alternative communities, how to cope with the media and other things.
I suppose after that it's really a matter of inviting people to help run the workshops. Organising publicity to encourage people to come to it.
But maybe people on here have a completely different idea about what they want, or could suggest some different topics?
Having some sort of event for Mayday 2009 is a really good idea. What sort of format could it take?
For comparison purposes, I'm thinking about the Mayday of around 2000 or so in London where there was a sort of conference organised somewhere up Holloway Road. There was also a march near Parliament where somebody sprayed slogans on the Cenotaph, and a grass mohican got put on Winston Churchill's statue.
I think the conference idea is probably better suited to the present movement than the march. It doesn't always have to be in London though, and it's a bit awkward for people to get to, a long journey down from Lancaster eg and quite costly in terms of money and time.
Somewhere in the Midlands like Birmingham or Nottingham might be a better venue and easier to get to for most of the people who don't live in London or the South of England.
Asssuming people did want the conference idea, I'd be interested to know what sort of subjects would people need to talk about? A while ago (November 2005) there was a really good weekend conference at Lancaster University where people discussed mostly stuff to do with the anti-globalisation movement - the 'give up activism' debate, the Tinkers' Bubble type alternative communities, how to cope with the media and other things.
I suppose after that it's really a matter of inviting people to help run the workshops. Organising publicity to encourage people to come to it.
But maybe people on here have a completely different idea about what they want, or could suggest some different topics?
free spirit
more tea vicar?
I think I've said this before on other threads, but IMO doing anything on mayday weekend is daft because there are already well established mayday events taking place all over the country that many regional activists will be involved in organising, and therefore can't come to london (or where-ever).
if you want to organise something that's going to get involvement from activists from across the country, best pick a weekend when nothing else is going on.
but then, it's probably easier to organise it for mayday as per usual then complain afterwards when nobody turns up.
besides In Bloom actually has a point for a change, people actually value their bank holidays for doing stuff like having a life.
if you want to organise something that's going to get involvement from activists from across the country, best pick a weekend when nothing else is going on.
but then, it's probably easier to organise it for mayday as per usual then complain afterwards when nobody turns up.
besides In Bloom actually has a point for a change, people actually value their bank holidays for doing stuff like having a life.
The Black Hand
Unclean
WE're talking about serious change though. There's nothing interesting about the regional maydays at the minute...
free spirit
more tea vicar?
you're missing the point though - a lot of the key people you'd want to get to come to a serious national event to discuss serious change are likely to be otherwise engaged on mayday weekend through involvement in one way or another with their local mayday events or other stuff.
if you want regional activists to be there, then pick another weekend. If it's just aimed at londoners then fair enough, do it on mayday if you want, but do it on the understanding that a lot of people will have other things on and won't be able to make it.
The Black Hand
Unclean
Any event is called with the knowledge that some won't be able to make it. As for Maydays, there is no Mayday that needs any particular activist to attend.
free spirit
more tea vicar?
yes attica you're right as always, no regional mayday events have active anarchists involved in helping with the organisation, or running stalls at them at all, or even just going along to have a bit of banter with other locally based activists, trade unionists etc.
btw who did you say was calling this 'Congress', who's supporting it, and who's actually organising it?
oh, and you say this is the first such event the country has ever seen... it won't be anything like the RTS 2 day thing in 2000 on mayday weekend that attracted hundreds of people from anarchist / eco-activist related groups all over the country prior to the guerilla gardening mayday protests then? that's a shame, I'd have gone to another one that was along those lines.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
It won't be in any way reminisecent of Bradford May '98 either.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Or the Anarchy in the U.K soiree in what 93/94? (fuck my memory!)
The Black Hand
Unclean
Shall you and me call this event then Butchers?
I think we could get a few hundred ££ together easily for it, and that's without any anarchist (or other) movement involvement.Steve Booth
Bourgeois apologist
Anarchy in the UK
So in a world where Guilt By Association operates be carefull of whom you are associating with....
That was 1994, and one of the oddest and most sinister exhibits in the Gandalf Trial was a long list the police compiled of everybody who financially supported it. Basically a roll call of every sentient being in the UK. All fifty of us... It included celebrities like George Melly and all sort of folks, even including me (Round up all the usual suspects)
So in a world where Guilt By Association operates be carefull of whom you are associating with....
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