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Progressive dance music

kyser_soze said:
all complex melodies, filter changes and build/break moments that made me feel like I was flying in places...

That just sounds like trance to me... ;)
 
UR = Underground Resistance.

Jeff Mills - Detroit born and influenced, but I think he sounds more euro-techno

Detroit techno - stripped out, synthetic sounding disco stuff, which is the reason that most Detroit lovers I've spoken to like it; it's got more 'soul' than Euro-techno if you will...

Me - I like techno to sound like 'We Are Back' by Mescalinum United, or that Aphex track from the Pirelli advert, way back in the day.
 
Skim said:
That just sounds like trance to me... ;)

OK, this is me being old but...I take trance to me stuff like Neurodance; prog house is something like Be As One, or Ima...along those lines basically.
 
I disagree - Mills is pretty much the ultimate Detroit techno dj - his technique, the records he plays - all Detroit - Detroit techno can be hard as nails too.
 
kyser_soze said:
Well that's unforunate for you that you got dragged there...what's your preferred flavr of that thumpy-thumpy music the young'uns listen to these days...

If you want quality house, you want Derrick Carter, DIY or the Inland Knights/Smokescreen lads*.

*admittedly I'm about 5 years out of touch, but hey
 
kyser_soze said:
UR = Underground Resistance.

Jeff Mills - Detroit born and influenced, but I think he sounds more euro-techno

Detroit techno - stripped out, synthetic sounding disco stuff, which is the reason that most Detroit lovers I've spoken to like it; it's got more 'soul' than Euro-techno if you will...

Me - I like techno to sound like 'We Are Back' by Mescalinum United, or that Aphex track from the Pirelli advert, way back in the day.

Nope, still makes no sense. Most Detroit techno doesn't sound disco at all. :confused: Influenced by funk, soul, jazz, yes. But disco?
 
Blagsta said:
If you want quality house, you want Derrick Carter, DIY or the Inland Knights/Smokescreen lads*.

*admittedly I'm about 5 years out of touch, but hey
BIG TIME!
Check out Moodyman, Theo Parrish, the Detroit Beatdown Crew: Mike Clark, Delano Smith and Rick Wilhite, Johnny McIntosh, Tristan Watkins ( http://www.phonopsia.co.uk/ )
 
Blagsta said:
Nope, still makes no sense. Most Detroit techno doesn't sound disco at all. :confused: Influenced by funk, soul, jazz, yes. But disco?
Lots of Detroit techno DJs incorporate a bit of disco in their sets - Mills especially - disco is a very important influence
 
Most Detroit techno doesn't sound disco at all. Influenced by funk, soul, jazz, yes. But disco?

Sorry, should have expanded on the disco thing really...but yeah, Juan Atkins frequently cites disco as one of his main influences and many peeps I talked to back in the day preferred the detroit sound cos it was more 'human meets machine' rather than 'machines talking to each other'...personally I prefer the latter but hey.

And that doesn't mean there isn't hard Detroit style out there...look I know what I meant...
 
Esp 'I Feel Love' - put 20 detroit-y DJs/producers in a room and I'd put money on it that all of them list Moroder as an influence, to the point it's almost as important as Kraftwerk...
 
fractionMan said:
The last tune I remember being labeled progressive house was 'funky guitar' in 93 or 4.

I should get out more.

Funky Guitar!! I love that tune!!

I even have it on a rare Sasha mix taken from club Lakota in 92/93ish

QUALITY! :cool:
 
kyser_soze said:
Esp 'I Feel Love' - put 20 detroit-y DJs/producers in a room and I'd put money on it that all of them list Moroder as an influence, to the point it's almost as important as Kraftwerk...

True. Surgeon used to play it a lot.
 
The funny thing is, all that kind of stuff ended up on House of Handbag compilations, then the equivalent of Ministry Trance Arse 95 or whatever.

Either that or the compilations generally had better choons on them anyway...

Ahh, to the beat of the drum. BANG! To the beat of the drum. BANG! BANG!
 
skyscraper101 said:
Funky Guitar!! I love that tune!!

I even have it on a rare Sasha mix taken from club Lakota in 92/93ish

QUALITY! :cool:
Do you remember Colours on Union City Recordings which had Funky Guitar plus a load more decent stuff on it (Understand This Groove by UFI, I'm Coming Hardcore by M.A.N.I.C, etc)? Dug it out the other day and it still sounds very very good.
 
Paulie Tandoori said:
Do you remember Colours on Union City Recordings which had Funky Guitar plus a load more decent stuff on it (Understand This Groove by UFI, I'm Coming Hardcore by M.A.N.I.C, etc)? Dug it out the other day and it still sounds very very good.

I had it on cd. Not sure how good it'd sound if I had another listen tho.
 
kyser_soze said:
What, La Luna? Runs at 132bpm, hardly Hard House, and back from 1992 too...

That's the one. You sure it's '92? I thought it was 95ish. When I say "hard house" btw, I mean hard house as was, before it mutated into the bastard son of Nu NRG and happy hardcore.
 
Progressive house/trance, has been my staple since it broke away from all that leftifield guerilla sound to be fair. Sasha's Global Underground Ibiza series was a bench mark for me along with BT's Ima.
Hooj choons were huge contibutors aswell as bedrock records but the blurring of prog house with prog trance in that era I think has confused a lot of people as to what constitutes "progressive" dance music today.
For me the prog house/trance sound is always my first love the trance inducing 4/4 and the quirky and ever changing synth sounds and layering make for a truly excellent cerebral experience. It's like meditation in a way that the first coupla of times you hear it in a club it's very easy to right it off (shit DJ's don't help too) but when you catch that feeling it's ace.
I still collect it today me las vinyl was an the mau5trap label
 
fractionMan said:
I had it on cd. Not sure how good it'd sound if I had another listen tho.
Give it a go, i was surprised how much i still enjoyed most of it when i had a listen recently, me and the g/f were dancing around the living room :)
 
Paulie Tandoori said:
Do you remember Colours on Union City Recordings which had Funky Guitar plus a load more decent stuff on it (Understand This Groove by UFI, I'm Coming Hardcore by M.A.N.I.C, etc)? Dug it out the other day and it still sounds very very good.

Hell yes - was very pleased with myself the day I picked that up on vinyl - sadly it's pretty scratched now but funky guitar and B.M.EX - Apollonia still sound good to me
 
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