Problem with splitting a video file

[sheothebudworths]

I just used Easy Video Splitter to split Series One of Spaced which I've downloaded, in order to put it on to two cd-r's, but when I try to play the file from the cd-r, windows media player says the file is either corrupt or that the player doesn't support the format (the actual error number whatsit is '0xC00D1199: Cannot play the file').
This is despite the fact that the original file plays fine.

Is it something to do with codecs (despite the fact that the original file plays fine)?

Or because I'm buring to a cd-r instead of dvd-r (although again, I don't have any problems doing that usually, so long as the file is small enough)

Any ideas?

Simple language please (VERY simple )!

 

[Tank Girl]

people like you are responsible for organised crime

buy a copy you bloody pirate.

(milesy made me type all that )

 

[sheothebudworths]

It wasn't me silly - it was the baby.


(She's very clever, but this problem is beyond even her )

 

[Tank Girl]

I knew that baby was a wrong'un.

poor frank

 

[Cadmus]

What format is the original file?

 

[sheothebudworths]

I knew that baby was a wrong'un.

poor frank

Frank's fine.


Baby does have a name by the way.... ....she's called 'Baby Liam Gallagher' on account of the fantastic, not at all wonky haircut I gave her recently.

 

[sheothebudworths]

Ooooh....HELP IS HERE!!!.......fuck off tanky ........errrr.......XviD I think Cadmus (does that sound right? It says that in the file name anyway..... )

 

[sheothebudworths]

It actually says 'Spaced Season 1 XviD DVD-Rip PAL' to be precise.

 

[sheothebudworths]

Hang on Right - I'd actually split it in half and the second half is fine, it just seems to be the first that isn't (the first half of the split file on my hard drive won't actually play either, so it's obviously a problem with the splitting rather than the burning).

 

[Cadmus]

yep, since it's xvid is in 'container' format so a crucial bit of the code, which is in the end of the clip, is needed for the first one to be properly 'unpacked' to the screen. that's why the second one's fine. Have you used this software to split xvid clips before and was it sucessful?

going out now. someone will probably take over.

 

[sheothebudworths]

One other slightly weird thing....the one that's working is 785 MB, the one that isn't is 4.01 KB but 8.00 KB on disk (the original file is 1.36 GB and I split the file automatically, into two, to fit onto two 700MB disks).

 

[sheothebudworths]

Have you used this software to split xvid clips before and was it sucessful?

Ah right - cheers for that - nope, haven't used it before, but saw it recommended in the freeware thread.

Any ideas then for any other (free!) simple programme to do what needs to be done?

 

[mhendo]

Try using VirtualDub to split the file. That's always worked with avis and xVids for me.

Open the program, then open the file. Use the markers at the bottom to mark the beginning and end of your clip. Then go to the menus and make sure the following are selected:

Video > Direct Stream Copy

Audio > Source Audio

Audio > Direct Stream Copy

That should do it. Once you've got you two files, play each one on your computer and check that the audio and video are in sync.

If you want to actually encode new video in xVid, you will need to have the xVid encoder (e.g., Koepi's binary) installed on your machine.

 

[sheothebudworths]

Thanks for that mhendo (the other programmer was only free for a 7 day trial, so this is great) - only trouble is it is out of synch (from fairly near the end of the first half) but it is on the original too - can I still change it?.

And if so, how?

Looks like something to do with the interleaving under 'Audio' - trial and error I guess?
It actually gets progressively worse as it goes so is there some way to only start changing it some way through iyswim?

 

[mhendo]

Thanks for that mhendo (the other programmer was only free for a 7 day trial, so this is great) - only trouble is it is out of synch (from fairly near the end of the first half) but it is on the original too - can I still change it?.

And if so, how?

Looks like something to do with the interleaving under 'Audio' - trial and error I guess?

First, you are correct that the way to change it is under

Audio > Interleaving...

And yes, it really is something of a trial-and-error situation.

In the pop-up box, use the bottom section to delay the audio track. The units are milliseconds, so 1000 equals 1 second. Positive numbers delay the audio, and negative numbers push the audio in front of the video, so choose appropriately. It's easy to check in VirtualDub whether or not the sound is in sync, before you encode your new video.

As for the problem of the delay geting progressively worse, if a single pass doesn't fix it, then maybe the best thing is to make 10 or more separate files, fixing the audio separately on each one, and then put them back together once they're fixed.

Good luck.

 

[sheothebudworths]

It's easy to check in VirtualDub whether or not the sound is in sync, before you encode your new video.

Thanks a lot for all that mhendo - but, how do I do that bit above.....how do I play it back basically?


Have tried pressing what looks like the play button, but it doesn't work (the video just sort of skips forward and there's no sound at all - I might just try saving it and see what happens).

 

[mhendo]

Thanks a lot for all that mhendo - but, how do I do that bit above.....how do I play it back basically?

There are a bunch of buttons that looks like play buttons on the VirtualDub console.

The one you want is right near the far left. It's the second button from the left, right next to the "stop" button. The button you want is grey, with a right-facing triangle, and has a little "I" in the bottom-right corner. You can also, i think, use the one next to it, with the llittle "O" in the corner.

The first in input, the second output playback, so it's possible that output might be better. Give it a go and see if it works.

 

[sheothebudworths]

Didn't work for me, but I may have worked that out with the aid of the Help info....anyway, I managed to do it (about fifth time lucky ) by saving and deleting until it was all good, however.... .......now I've come to copy them on to a cd-r, it turns out that the first half is 604MB which is obviously fine, but the second half is 798MB which is not!
I split it directly down the middle (time/frame wise), but I'm guessing that the fact that I mucked about with the audio dubbing (is that what it's called? ) on the second half (I left the first half alone - I can live with it fucking up for the last 5 or 10 minutes) meant that the file size had increased?

Anyway - what I cannot for the life of me find now, is any way to anticipate how large the file will be without the same trial and error technique - much more complicated when every MB counts!

When I run 'Preview output from start' the box has something ticking over which seems to be guessing at the end size, but the moment it's finished running, it shuts down, so it's impossible to tell precisely from that.

Any ideas?

Thanks veryt much for your help btw - I wasn't expecting another reply till tommorrow and was about to give up on it for the night, but I'd be quite chuffed now to get the fucking thing done (I'm having to do it because it's eating into my memory and I keep getting messages about not having enough free memory space....but it's nice to get it all off actually and at least having to practise on such a - typically for me - complicated one, means I should have no trouble after this).

 

[Cadmus]

Any ideas?

iirc there's a way how to burn more data than common on a CD-R.

Let me get back to you on that, have to google a bit.




edit after googling: the solution could be Overburn in Nero: http://www.tacktech.com/display.cfm?ttid=253

Never tried it, dunno if it will help.

 

[mhendo]

Actually, if you have both audio and video set to "Direct Stream Copy", it shouldn't really result in any increase in file size, because those settings do pretty much what the title suggests—they simply copy the old audio and video over to the new file. So i'm at a bit of a loss as to why you've got such a discrepancy in file sizes.

I guess it's possible that the second half of your video has a lot more complex scene changes, and so didn't compress as much in the first place, in which case it would simply be a matter of moving your "half-way" point further to the right. But, as far as i know, this is really a matter of trial and error. I'm not sure if you can accurately predict the size of each output file.

I'll have another look later on, and if i find a solution i'll get back to you.

 

[sheothebudworths]

Ah cheers all - after failing badly at trying to get exactly 700MB of the file for the first disk, I decided to stop being such an anal obsessive perfectionist, threw caution to the wind and settled on copying to three disks... ....so the panic's over for the moment.


I do still have a couple of mammoth 4.5GB bittorrents on the go and a few other shorter ones and will no doubt continue getting more though, so I'll defo have a look at that link Cadmus.

Thanks a lot both of you - like I say, that was a confusing one to start with, but it can surely only get easier from here (don't fucking count on it though ) - I'd been putting it off for ages too....

 

[Bob_the_lost]

You could just use DVDs instead...
Just a thought.

 

[sheothebudworths]

But then I'd have to pay!


And I wouldn't be on Episode 8 of Series 2 of Lost if I went down that road.....


(Unless you meant copy onto DVD-r's, in which case A) no I couldn't cos I don't have the right drive and B) I'm not quite that stupid. )

 

[Bob_the_lost]

I did mean Dvd Rs, a good DVD burner costs about £30-£35 and the disks cost around 30-40p each, and what's wrong with burning to DVDs

 

[sheothebudworths]

I did mean Dvd Rs, a good DVD burner costs about £30-£35 and the disks cost around 30-40p each, and what's wrong with burning to DVDs

Nothing, obviously, but I have a laptop (and no experience of fitting disk drives).
I looked into external ones, but the cheapest seem to be around £80, so I think I'll stick to cd-r's for now if you don't mind!

 

[Bob_the_lost]

Makes plenty of sense now you mention the laptop, carry on.

*waves in patronising fashion*

 

[sheothebudworths]

heh heh heh