Privatised or nationalised railways?
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Crispy
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With 3rd, 2nd, 1st, and Excelsior class accomodation for the mods - the latter includes personal flunkies, hunting carriage (pheasants, rabbits, fully stocked salmon pond) and permission to stop the train at any point to hassle the locals_pH_ said:Perhaps the rail regulator could be persuaded to ditch chiltern altogether and hand the franchise to U75Rail (directors: Editor and Roadkill, wearing top hats and long frock coats)
@ roadie
Yeah, but Ed wants lower quadrant GWR type signals, so he'd be disappointed as Network Rail wouldn't possibly allow THAT!
Hmmm, maybe you 2 should also take over NR and re-christen it Netwank Rail or Newtrok! Rail (for dyslexic amphibians who like to party) which would be good for me as most of the time when I try to type 'Newtrok' it comes out as Newtrok. See, it happened there too!
Yeah, but Ed wants lower quadrant GWR type signals, so he'd be disappointed as Network Rail wouldn't possibly allow THAT!
Hmmm, maybe you 2 should also take over NR and re-christen it Netwank Rail or Newtrok! Rail (for dyslexic amphibians who like to party) which would be good for me as most of the time when I try to type 'Newtrok' it comes out as Newtrok. See, it happened there too!
Crispy said:With 3rd, 2nd, 1st, and Excelsior class accomodation for the mods - the latter includes personal flunkies, hunting carriage (pheasants, rabbits, fully stocked salmon pond) and permission to stop the train at any point to hassle the locals
I like it!! Crispy for position of Director, Rolling Stock Design Dept, U75Rail Ltd.
Cattle trucks for n00bs!!
Crispy
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editor
hiraethified
Slip coaches were a really clever solution to running express trains that would still serve multiple destinations. Funnily enough, BR kept slip coaches in operation until the 1960s.
Oh, I'd also like those really cool automated Post Office pick up and drop off mechanisms reinstalled too.
Oh, I'd also like those really cool automated Post Office pick up and drop off mechanisms reinstalled too.
<U75Rail: Opening the train window* and throwing the current safety guidelines and rule book out>
*Obviously this would have to be on Crispy's newly designed stock where you actually CAN open the windows, not like the rubbish trains nowadays, where if you tried to throw the rule book out it would bounce back off the unopenable window and biff you on the nose, OUCH!
_pH_ said:Like the one Hornby used to make a model of? With the ropey baskety thing?
Excellent! It could be used to drop disruptive trolls off at high speed when they accidentally made their way from the cattle trucks to the Excelsior class hunting carriage
I'm liking this idea. Someone more proficient with photoshop than me should make an image of a troll being ejected from a fast-moving mail train...
Oswaldtwistle
Banned
editor said:
Oh absolutely, no arguments there. I supposed the question is, whether we re-nationalise, or find an alternative private model or even something else like mutalisation (like a building society or the co-op)
Oh and Spanglechick and PH, very funny comments
Crispy
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The major deep-rooted problem with the current arrangement is the disincentive for long-term planning and investment. No new lines or electrification will be done. In the face of increasing demand, the private rail companies will raise prices to limit it, whilst increasing profits. So a nationalised infrastructure and timetabelling body, with private franchises for the routes would be the best/easiest step from here.
Crispy said:
Um...isn't that what we've already got though?? Kind of?? Who owns Newtrok! Rail anyway??
And nationalised rolling stock? Otherwise there will no investment in rolling stock either? And the leeches who made millions at Porterbrook et al could be made to pay it all back.
Actually, can we stop all this sensible stuff please and go back to discussing what the rail newtrok! would be like under U75Rail's management, please?
Oh and is no-one going to rebuild Tinsley Yard for me?
*Goes off to google 'master and slave hump shunter'*
*Is shocked by the results
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davesgcr
Reading books
I agree with all these pro GWR sentiments ! I remember Panniers in real service and at the age of 3 was reluctantly dragged off the footplate in Ammanford goods yard (now Tesco car park)
We actually need a Mr Parkhouse in charge - see the classic BTF film "Train Time" for details - command and control from a comfortable Marylebone office with a morning conference geared to clearing the broccoli specials from Cornwall and extra trains from South Wales for the tinplate.
We may dream - but the GWR had to work hard for its modest commercial success (3% return in a good year) - in the teeth of recession and mounting road transport lobbiest. It managed to run good marketing campaigns , extra late trains on Saturday nights for boozers and pleasure seekers (!) - but most of all it had excellent and dedicated staff (many of whom were against nationalisation) - now there is a thought.
Twas never perfect - but it ever there was a loved railway !
We actually need a Mr Parkhouse in charge - see the classic BTF film "Train Time" for details - command and control from a comfortable Marylebone office with a morning conference geared to clearing the broccoli specials from Cornwall and extra trains from South Wales for the tinplate.
We may dream - but the GWR had to work hard for its modest commercial success (3% return in a good year) - in the teeth of recession and mounting road transport lobbiest. It managed to run good marketing campaigns , extra late trains on Saturday nights for boozers and pleasure seekers (!) - but most of all it had excellent and dedicated staff (many of whom were against nationalisation) - now there is a thought.
Twas never perfect - but it ever there was a loved railway !
But in Rail Alphabet? I love Rail Alphabet; it makes me feel safe, particularly when there's a £50 maximum penalty for something.editor said:
Chz
Stark Raving Sane
The problem with privatisation in the UK isn't so much having a private railway, but rather the stupidly inept way in which is was done. Which was to ensure they could flog it for the most amount of money and spend the least doing it!
BR had to endure a privitisation run-up where they were constantly strapped for funds of any kind. Once the system was teetering on the brink, they carved it up into over 20 bits. Ostenibly to maximise the profit from it. British Rail itself eventually became over 100 companies.
Privatised railways run just fine in other parts of the world - it's just the way they did it here that sucks.
BR had to endure a privitisation run-up where they were constantly strapped for funds of any kind. Once the system was teetering on the brink, they carved it up into over 20 bits. Ostenibly to maximise the profit from it. British Rail itself eventually became over 100 companies.
Privatised railways run just fine in other parts of the world - it's just the way they did it here that sucks.
