Prince Harry - what a cock

[felixthecat]

I'm 40, Felix. What does that make you, 60?

Oh dear, not quite, not just yet altho I am older than you.

i suppose I've lived outside this country for too long. There have much more important things to do and much more preesing needs that to waste time hating people I don't know for the fact the fact they are more priviledged than me. I could rant and rave about it being unfair and that I should have his advantages but what the fuck good would it do me? Make me bitter and twisted? Nah, rather get on with my life as it is.

 

[felixthecat]

But the hate is only partially aimed at Harry – a lot more of it is aimed at the Royals as a ridiculously antiquated institution that is both unjust and embarrassing. That kind of anger is healthy IMHO.

Anger and hate are two different things.

Anger can be a positive energy - hate never is.

 

[andy2002]

Oh dear, not quite, not just yet.

i suppose I've lived outside this country for too long. There have much more important things to do and much more preesing needs that to waste time hating people I don't know for the fact the fact they are more priviledged than me. I could rant and rave about it being unfair and that I should have his advantages but what the fuck good would it do me? Make me bitter and twisted? Nah, rather get on with my life as it is.

It has nothing to do with "wanting his advantages" though, and everything to do with being increasingly fed-up (not bitter or twisted) with the kind of society I'm bringing up my kids in. The Royals and the Iraq war are only two manifestations of the appalling mess this country is in. I'm angrier about it now than I've been since the miners' strike, especially when I see such little prospect of things improving. I'm pretty lucky – me and the wife get by and we've got two terrific kids, but some of the shit I see going on here and elsewhere just tears my bloody heart out.

 

[andy2002]

Anger and hate are two different things.

Anger can be a positive energy - hate never is.

We could probably argue the semantics of it all night, but I think in many cases hate and anger are indivisible.

 

[audiotech]

Whatever. I feel neither hate nor acceptance of them.

But hate is a destructive emotion that harm the person who feels it a whole lot more than the person its aimed at.

So fuck you and the white horse you rode in on

It's not 'hate' you weasly worded fence sitter.

It's the very fact that the institution is an archaic, undemocratic relic from the feudal system and has no place in the modern world.

To think, some drink sozzled letch who likes a brawl and dresses in nazi uniforms could possibly become the head of state, if the other nonentity, William, gets knocked down by a bus.

The prime reason for this possibility is because of someone's birth into a royal bed ffs.

Meritocracy anyone?

 

[felixthecat]

It's not 'hate' you weasly worded fence sitter.

See myself as more of a realist actually, dearie.

Meritocracy? Wonderful! Is there anywhere its actually in place and working?

Utopia anyone?

 

[andy2002]

See myself as more of a realist actually, dearie.

Meritocracy? Wonderful! Is there anywhere its actually in place and working?

Utopia anyone?

When I hear someone refer to themselves as a "realist", I always think "defeatist" would probably be a better description.

And I hate the idea of a "meritocracy", too. Why should being good at something mean you have a better life than someone with fewer/no skills?

 

[audiotech]

See myself as more of a realist actually, dearie.

Meritocracy? Wonderful! Is there anywhere its actually in place and working?

Utopia anyone?

Realist? pffft.

A meritocracy is supposedly the UK, according to government spin.

A republic would be a start.

 

[Aldebaran]

Don't be shy now. Let the son of the Occupying Royal come to confirm the New British Colonial Reign. Why not install him as King of Iraq at once?

salaam.

 

[felixthecat]

When I hear someone refer to themselves as a "realist", I always think "defeatist" would probably be a better description.

You may be right.

I dunno Andy, maybe it was being overseas for so long that changed me. I am laidback about pretty much everything - I've seen too much to get worked up about the bloody royal family. They tend not to encroach on my radar very often.

Maybe disillusioned is a better word.

 

[rekil]

Utopia anyone?

A map of the world that does not include Utopia is not worth even glancing at, for it leaves out the one country at which Humanity is always landing.

Oscar Wilde, The Soul of Man Under Socialism

 

[Dhimmi]

It's like the daily mail boards with an anarchist makeover.

Isn't it just?

I'm impressed that he wants to go, based on nothing but the blatant display of bottle.

No wonder it has the MoD et al trembling, the only bottle they know is brought to a restaurant table.

 

[Groucho]

Send the little woofter ite I say! I don't know what today's Royals are coming to. Abite time we saw some Royal heroics, not all this talking to plants malarky. Send the hoodies ite too, serve em right to get riddled with bullets, what? You know, this could be the making of the lad. He could come back to Blightie head held high having taught the darkies a lesson or three, then he could sort ite the hoodies. He might save the Royal family this lad, lead the charge and be a man not like his woofter of a father, abite bloody time, what, what? Nigh the party's led by a woolly woofter who thinks hoodies are teddy bears to take to bed for a cuddle. All they need is love! Pah! Need lead shot up the arse more like, what? Never been to war you see, never made a man of him. I don't know what the party's coming too. Good name too, Harry. Dependable name. What?

Just abolish the bloody lot.

 

[Aldebaran]

I really don't think it's helpful for internet warriors to pontificate on the potential bravery of real life soldiers. I am assuming - safely, I suspect - that you, like me, have taken good care in the course of our lives to avoid facing people who want to kill us.

That is what 650000 + and-counting Iraqis did, until your and the US "heroes" come to kill them.

The young man in question has trained for and is anxious to carry out duties on behalf of the state

Please tell me what "duties on behalf of the state" any UKer has to do in Iraq?

which involve putting his health and his life at great risk.

I really enjoy this twisting of fact. He doesn't bring his health and life at risk. He brings the health and lives of Iraqi people at risk, is most ready and eager to murder them and he wants to do this. Just like every other of your heroes does.

Understood or do you need a drawing?

salaam.

 

[Giles]

The vast majority of the supposed 650,000 casualties have not been killed by the Americans, or the Brits.

They have been killed by other Iraqis, in thousands of utterly pointless, savage suicide bombings, random shootings etc.

Savages, all of them.

Still, all we need is their oil, so it doesn't really matter.

Giles..

 

[Aldebaran]

Giles, I think you need to update your "knowledge" of the situation. Urgently.
Hint: It Is Not What Your Media Tells You.

salaam.
Aldebaran. Savage By Coincidence.

 

[dash_two]

Prince Harry - what a cock

That could be read as appreciative in some circles.

 

[Giles]

Giles, I think you need to update your "knowledge" of the situation. Urgently.
Hint: It Is Not What Your Media Tells You.

salaam.
Aldebaran. Savage By Coincidence.

What, so all those people who daily drive cars packed with explosives into crowded market places and then blow themselves and 100 innocents into little pieces are actually American servicemen?

Or the sectarian death squads shooting members of a different subset of their nasty religion for living in the wrong area, being married to the wrong person, working for the wrong people, walking down the wrong street?

There was me thinking that they were Iraqis, mainly.

I'm glad you have put me right on this, and that they are all Americans or Brits.

Giles..

 

[Irenick]

Huzzah! Harry’s off to Basra. Does anyone have the telephone number for the Basra insurgency?

 

[chilango]

Huzzah! Harry’s off to Basra. Does anyone have the telephone number for the Basra insurgency?

try Das Uberdog?

He's in the SWP, and they *heart* the insurgents. He boasts about having Weyman Bennets phone number, so it must be worth a shot.

















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