Discussion in 'UK politics, current affairs and news' started by editor, Jan 2, 2015.
Why would a corrupt organisation whose function is to buttress the establishment be reluctant to investigate the crimes of a member of the royal family?
Corbyn is an anti-Semite.
Because they want to pardon those crimes and the rest.
eh? it's not their job to pardon crimes.
Yeah, well in a way it is but I just used the word 'pardon' because that other fella did but not in the same sense if you get my drift whatever.
Anyone fancy a pint:
And this is where you pay...in sweat.
it looks like people have bled all over those seats
I hear that it's because he never uses lube
Do they serve under-age drinkers?
i think it's fair to say andrew's been in once or twice
Prince Andrew's bombshell email to Ghislaine Maxwell uncovered
Think that was more about pointless hill marches
Why? What has he been accused of that amounts to a criminal offence in this jurisdiction?
Raping a minor.
I think that, by her own account, she was over 16, and ostensibly consented.
I'm not defending him, or his actions, but the police can't investigate absent a prima facie crime.
Her claim is she was trafficked to the UK against her will to be used as a prostitute aged 17. Take your pick of what crimes anyone who had sex with her under those circumstances has committed. Rape of a minor applies.
G Maxwell probably more likely to be technically criminal, some sort of prostitution offence.
Err... 16 was the age of consent, then. And nothing in her account that gives rise to a reasonable suspicion that he did not believe that she consented.
And there's no suggestion that Andrew trafficked her - that was Epstein and Maxwell.
Regretfully, as seedy as his conduct was, it's far from clear that, even if what she says is true (and I suspect it is) it would amount to a crime on Andrew's part.
Which is why the MPS are able to decline to investigate.
The most obvious prima facie crime is by Maxwell - sex trafficking, pimping. If PA knew about that, of course, he's in shit as well, but he'd surely be a person of interest in any investigation into Maxwell. Put it this way, if it were you or me whose bestie mates were being investigated for running a sex trafficking ring and it was alleged that they gave me girls from that ring for me to have sex with in their house, we'd be feeling the heat.
And let's face it, that is why they also haven't investigated her.
Age of consent usually counts as where you are rather than what it is where you're from.
I think this attempt at humour is somewhat off target.
Coerced or forced sex just isn't funny. And this isn't the first thread on urban recently where a male poster has made such a 'joke' leaving more than one female urb feeling distinctly uncomfortable (at best) if not downright creeped out.
So can this behaviour stop?
Errr...the age a prostitute must be in the UK is 18. And the fact she states quite clearly that she felt coerced in to travelling with Maxwell and Epstein is the bit where, you know, consent is not given
Shag a woman trafficked to the UK against her will and you can find yourself in very hot water.
It's a long-shot he'll get done even if all she said is proved categorically. But it is very much on the line of quite serious criminality, which is why he's coming out with his load of old fanny.
And the MPS has no interest in investigating any senior royal for serious offences, quite the opposite in fact. Had these allegations been made against an ordinary Joe they would at least have a nosey to see what the hullabaloo is all about.
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