Pop Brixton (formerly Grow Brixton) Pope's Road development

Discussion in 'Brixton' started by editor, Mar 27, 2014.

  1. editor

    editor hiraethified

    And here''s the picture Lambeth chose to illustrate their great 'community' success.

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  2. cuppa tee

    cuppa tee Well-Known Member

    The epitome of homogeneity
  3. equationgirl

    equationgirl Respect my existence or expect my resistance

    Hardly representative of the wider local community, is it?
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  4. snowy_again

    snowy_again Slush

    I see Sisters of Reggae have taken up a residency there...
  5. snowy_again

    snowy_again Slush

  6. editor

    editor hiraethified

    Interesting to note that they think that they're best known for "Mega parties and all-day festivals"...

    I was told that they charge a fucking fortune in hire charges too.
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  7. equationgirl

    equationgirl Respect my existence or expect my resistance

    I can't think why anyone would want to get married there.
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  8. editor

    editor hiraethified

    Let's bring, err, sexy back! With banter. Awesome.

  9. editor

    editor hiraethified

    It's now "South London’s top foodie heaven!"

    Small can of beer £5. Yeah!
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  10. editor

    editor hiraethified

    Ah yes. A greenhouse drinking/party venue.

  11. editor

    editor hiraethified

    Would you believe it? it's the exact same story in Peckham as it is in Brixton. It's unprofitable, has little connection with the existing community and the 'community hours' are all bollocks too.

    Peckham Has a Gentrification Problem. A Converted Car Park Wanted to Solve It
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  12. alex_

    alex_ Well-Known Member

  13. editor

    editor hiraethified

    Of course it is. I'm sure they'll all paid handsomely, despite their total failure to deliver a profit.
  14. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    Read the whole article.

    Agree its exactly the same story.

    Why did Southwark Council do a profit share? Did they not look at Pop Brixton? Its now part of Pop business practice to agree to profit share. Which won't happen.

    All the rest of article is same as Brixton.

    Was this article written by Brixton Buzz? No by Vice. Expect criticism of Vice for its sloppy journalism:rolleyes:

    Its kind of depressing to be proved right about the Pop business model.

    Btw saw Our new leader Cllr Jack hanging out in Pop Brixton today. Meets all Progress Labours requirements for a progressive future.

    The only good thing about saving Peckham levels is that the cinema stays.
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  15. editor

    editor hiraethified

    This comment in the FB Reclaim Brixton group nailed it:

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  16. editor

    editor hiraethified

  17. editor

    editor hiraethified

    What does urban think of this 'Little Leaders' event. £22.25 for each kid taking part, with 'celeb talk,' a 'pamper parlour' and 'braid bar.'
  18. editor

    editor hiraethified

    And now I've learnt the word 'mumtrepreneur.'
  19. Smangus

    Smangus comatose at a desk

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  20. Ol Nick

    Ol Nick beer in Brixton

    Little Lebowski Urban Achievers
  21. organicpanda

    organicpanda cat herder extraodinaire

    bet you wish you hadn't
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  22. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

    Would someone mind doing a short begginers guide recap to what Pop promised/obligations are and how it's failed? It's a long thread and hard to find that exact info. Would appreciate it.
  23. teuchter

    teuchter je suis teuchter

    Good luck with that :thumbs:
  24. editor

    editor hiraethified

    It was supposed to be Grow Brixton but quickly become Booze Brixton.
    Grow:Brixton team to transform empty space at Pope’s Road in Brixton

    It's lost shitloads of money for three years in a row.
    Backfiring Pop Brixton registers losses for the third year in a row as Lambeth declares it a community success story

    This article sums it all up:
    Exclusive: Grow Brixton to Pop Brixton – how a green oasis for the community turned into a 21st Century business park.
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  25. ChrisSouth

    ChrisSouth Well-Known Member

    It's not uncommon for start-up organizations not to turn a profit for the first few years. It depends on their business plan. The difficulty is the information provided to/from Companies House, often isn't a reflection of what's actually going on.
  26. Monkeygrinder's Organ

    Monkeygrinder's Organ Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager

    This is true but Pop was supposed to be short term. It would be an odd business plan that projected first making a profit in year 5 of a 2 year project.

    Unless the intention was always that it would be there much longer than they claimed of course. :hmm:
  27. editor

    editor hiraethified

    Except that was planned to be a very short term development from the very start with Lambeth dishing out the land for free in return for a share of the profits - of which there has been none - despite the lease being constantly extended in an attempt to get something back from this disaster. Yet Lambeth have declared Pop Brixton to be a roaring success.

    Yeah, right.
  28. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    Even big ones like Uber don't turn a profit for years.

    I blame the ideological mindset of our New Labour Cllrs for this farce.

    They spend a lot of their time attacking the present leadership of Labour party over Brexit and Anti semitism.

    As they want return to the good old days of the Third Way.

    Business friendly believing in entrepreneurs.

    Its not a surprise to me that Pop isnt going to profit share with Council. Why would they if they could find way out of it?

    New Labour politicians are incredibly naive about how business works.
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  29. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    The idea of entrepreneurs as creators of employment is rather like re-grading social housing into "affordable" housing.

    It enables the politicos to claim to be addressing an issue - and by redefining the issue they can avoid responsibility by and large.

    PS I love the idea that Jeremy Hunt is going to forgive the students fees of those who become entrepreneurs. Sounds completely upside down thinking on a par with the Help to Buy scheme - scientifically proven only to help the best off.
  30. editor

    editor hiraethified

    Pretty much bang on. And it suggests that the reason why people are poor and struggling is simply because they're not entrepreneurial enough rather than the fucking shitty system that's screwing them over.
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